What Psychedelics Should I Use For Toxic Shame?

[vibv]

On 24.6.2024 at 7:13 PM, Yimpa said:

Don’t discount comedowns or bad trips. They are vital to the long-term healing. 

Absolutely.

I don't consider MDMA a "true" psychedelic either in the classical sense. It's an entactogen. And one of its really special abilities is to remove all and any fear on a very deep spiritual level while staying completely alert and awake — even more so.

[Yimpa]

@vibv i love the butterfly shape on one of those pills 

[bambi]

2 hours ago, vibv said:

Absolutely.

I don't consider MDMA a "true" psychedelic either in the classical sense. It's an entactogen. And one of its really special abilities is to remove all and any fear on a very deep spiritual level while staying completely alert and awake — even more so.

ITs not for me, its utility is pretty low for true spiritual work for me. 

Alcohol and cocaine can be thereuputic on the short term so can heroin and opiods

Serotonin agonists seem to be where the real work is at. 5ht7 seems to be the main conciousness mechanism for me

[vibv]

22 minutes ago, bambi said:

ITs not for me, its utility is pretty low for true spiritual work for me. 

Alcohol and cocaine can be thereuputic on the short term so can heroin and opiods

Serotonin agonists seem to be where the real work is at. 5ht7 seems to be the main conciousness mechanism for me

May not work for you. But there's a reason it is used in treating PTSD. It allows one to confront traumatic events, because it removes any emotional barrier and you can look at it with loving awareness and thus dissolve the trauma.

If fear and trauma isn't one of your themes in this work (it is for me), you just may not be able to gain anything valuable from it, which is OK, too, of course.

[bambi]

1 hour ago, vibv said:

May not work for you. But there's a reason it is used in treating PTSD. It allows one to confront traumatic events, because it removes any emotional barrier and you can look at it with loving awareness and thus dissolve the trauma.

If fear and trauma isn't one of your themes in this work (it is for me), you just may not be able to gain anything valuable from it, which is OK, too, of course.

Fair most of my mdma was in my 20s when i was young dumb will lots of cum

 

[Yimpa]

I am going to be trying anew psychedelic with my partner today. We both deal with toxic shame.

Let’s see what happens.

Edited June 29 by Yimpa

[mrPixel]

On 6/28/2024 at 9:53 AM, shree said:

Unfortunately , This is almost a mission impossible.

It's definitely a challenge. One's best bet is to find one that specializes in what you need help with and has been doing it a long time. There are a lot of generalists out there that simply can't help a vast number of people

[Davino]

On 28/6/2024 at 8:38 PM, vibv said:

It's an entactogen.

@vibv Didn't know the term. It's a good distinction. Thanks

Then I would like to correct myself. I don't consider MDMA strictly a psychedelic but it's an entheogen for sure.

For me entheogens = {psychedelics, cannabis, ketamine, MDMA, Salvia, Datura...} 

I define an Entheogen as a substance that changes significantly your state of consciousness, mind and body sensations.

 

Edited June 29 by Davino

[Fluran]

I feel similar at some extend,5meodmt/malt helped me to be construct-aware, that I am while often anxious, I also realize that I am getting anxious with my own imagination and I do not know what's going on people's mind unless I ask

[Schizophonia]

The most efficient venture would be to confront your toxic shame in life.

No psychedelic will be efficient.

Edited July 3 by Schizophonia