Trump is going to win the election

[Hardkill]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Trump, like a typical capitalist, isn't anything. He's just an opportunist who does whatever gives him more power and money.

Trump would be Satan worshiper if it would get him power and money.

The reason Trump is so successful in politics is because he has zero moral qualms or principles about telling fools exactly whatever they want to hear. When the majority of people are ignorant, this is extremely effective for gaining power. Just tell the most ignorant segment of the population exactly what they want to hear, reinforce all their deepest hatreds and biases and they will love and vote for you.

Trump does the exact opposite of what I do with my audience.

If I wanted to have the most successful YT channel, I would tell fools exactly what they wanted to hear: Here's how to get easy sex, money, and fame by using tricks and shortcuts.

So, then why did Trump lose the popular vote twice by a lot? Why is still unpopular amongst the general electorate?

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Hardkill said:

So, then why did Trump lose the popular vote twice by a lot? Why is still unpopular amongst the general electorate?

Because in the end most people are not total fools. At least half the population sees through Trump's BS.

Hitler didn't win by majority either. Extremists often take power by overpowering the sane majority, because the sane majority isn't as zealous and active as a minority of extremists are.

Christian Nationalists are effective because they are so delusional as to believe that Armageddon is coming. That delusion creates a motive force to rally people around. Whereas being sane does not create such a motive force.

The crazier you believe, the crazier you will act. Whereas sane people are just chill. But crazy action is great for grabbing power.

Edited July 29 by Leo Gura

[Hardkill]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Because in the end most people are not total fools. At least half the population sees through Trump's BS.

Hitler didn't win by majority either. Extremists often take power by overpowering the sane majority, because the sane majority isn't as zealous and active as a minority of extremists are.

Christian Nationalists are effective because they are so delusional as to believe that Armageddon is coming. That delusion creates a motive force to rally people around. Whereas being sane does not create such a motive force.

The crazier you believe, the crazier you will act. Whereas sane people are just chill. But crazy action is great for grabbing power.

Oh, I thought that it was because both the Great Depression and the great rage the Germans had toward virtually every country that surrounded them created such a major political opportunity for Hitler and his Nazi regime to rise to power. He would seize on this opportunity by coming off as a charismatic right-wing populist.

But what happens when the true majority of the people become scared of such tyranny and angry about such injustices?

Edited July 30 by Hardkill

[ryandesreu]

The no one above the law amendment must be passed.

Term limits for Supreme Court Justices are well overdue.

This is an example of good leadership.

 

 

[DocWatts]

10 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Oh, I thought that it was because both the Great Depression and the great rage the Germans had toward virtually every country that surrounded them created such a major political opportunity for Hitler and his Nazi regime to rise to power. He would seize on this opportunity by coming off as a charismatic right-wing populist.

A popular misconception about the Nazi's rise to power is that they were voted into power by poorest, most downtrodden people within German society, hurt most by the Great Depression. This is false - the poorest, most destitute people in German society gravitated towards Left wing parties, not the Nazis. 

In actuality, Hitler's base support was largely what Marx would call the 'petty bougiewazie' - professionals, skilled tradesmen, managers, shop owners who were terrified of losing their comparatively privileged position within society (and potentially ending up poor themselves).

[ryandesreu]

 

Could Donald Trump drop out?

[integral]

@ryandesreu should he drop out is different from Will he drop out.

A dictator does not have the mindset to dethrone themselves.

His top value is power, everything follows from that value.

Edited August 2 by integral

[Hardkill]

1 hour ago, integral said:

@ryandesreu should he drop out is different from Will he drop out.

A dictator does not have the mindset to dethrone themselves.

His top value is power, everything follows from that value.

I wish he would, but if does then he'll have no other way to avoid going to court for all of the federal level crimes he committed. Also, needlessly to say, he still has a boundless lust for power.

[Hardkill]

On 7/30/2024 at 6:36 AM, DocWatts said:

A popular misconception about the Nazi's rise to power is that they were voted into power by poorest, most downtrodden people within German society, hurt most by the Great Depression. This is false - the poorest, most destitute people in German society gravitated towards Left wing parties, not the Nazis. 

In actuality, Hitler's base support was largely what Marx would call the 'petty bougiewazie' - professionals, skilled tradesmen, managers, shop owners who were terrified of losing their comparatively privileged position within society (and potentially ending up poor themselves).

All of what you said is true too. However, I thought that the majority of the Germany felt so incredibly desperate and vengeful that they like they had no other choice, but to let a strongman takeover the country as a major emergency. The government, led by Chancellor Brüning, began to rule by emergency decrees, bypassing the Reichstag (parliament) before Hitler took over. Afterwards, the Enabling Act, which was passed in 1933, gave Hitler absolute power over the entire government and judiciary.

I also thought that it was because there democratic institutions were much less developed to begin with back then as they had only abolished the monarchy by around 1918. Therefore, most people in Germany, particularly the older generations of Germans, were not used to or not fully comfortable yet with having a democracy in their country during the 1920s. Then, when the Great Depression during the 1930s had devastated their country, faith in democratic institutions and parties declined as they seemed unable to address the crisis. Moreover, political divisions deepened, making it difficult for democratic institutions to function effectively.

Edited August 2 by Hardkill

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, ryandesreu said:

Could Donald Trump drop out?

Lol

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 30/07/2024 at 0:48 AM, Leo Gura said:

Because in the end most people are not total fools. At least half the population sees through Trump's BS.

Hitler didn't win by majority either. Extremists often take power by overpowering the sane majority, because the sane majority isn't as zealous and active as a minority of extremists are.

Christian Nationalists are effective because they are so delusional as to believe that Armageddon is coming. That delusion creates a motive force to rally people around. Whereas being sane does not create such a motive force.

The crazier you believe, the crazier you will act. Whereas sane people are just chill. But crazy action is great for grabbing power.

We can see that Fundamentalist minded people have something that lacks on more peacefull oriented people. Fundamentalists are Passionated. Ignorantly Passionated. If my cat look some fool drunk person walking in the street,he just will try to avoid such fool and move to a more tranquil area. But a Dog may bark a lot and even attack the drunkyard. Fundamentalists are barking dogs, with different degress of agression of course, some more passive-agressive others lashing out. But some cats can be agression loves too. The woke lefts. 

[ryandesreu]

1 hour ago, Hardkill said:

I wish he would, but if does then he'll have no other way to avoid going to court for all of the federal level crimes he committed. Also, needlessly to say, he still has a boundless lust for power.

They were saying that it's a possibility that he could make a deal where if he drops out he becomes immune which to me sounds crazy so it just might happen.

It seems more like a wishful thinking than a logical thinking that he could drop out. There is still a lot of time left and we now know that anything can happen.

 

 

[Sempiternity]

5 hours ago, ryandesreu said:

They were saying that it's a possibility that he could make a deal where if he drops out he becomes immune which to me sounds crazy so it just might happen.

Why would Democrats even consider this? As of right now, they are winning, according to pretty much every poll conducted nation wide. And their lead is most likely going to get better every day until the election. If they made a deal with Trump, and let him get away with everything, they'd themselves would look like criminals. This would only hurt their image of 'for the people', with nothing at all to gain. If they just go on as they are, Harris will win by a landslide, and Trump will lose everything, be hamulated, and most likely get convicted of at least one of his crimes and go to prison for the rest of his life, as the final chapter of his life and legacy, having finally the bill of consequences finally come due. 

[DocWatts]

15 hours ago, Hardkill said:

All of what you said is true too. However, I thought that the majority of the Germany felt so incredibly desperate and vengeful that they like they had no other choice, but to let a strongman takeover the country as a major emergency. The government, led by Chancellor Brüning, began to rule by emergency decrees, bypassing the Reichstag (parliament) before Hitler took over. Afterwards, the Enabling Act, which was passed in 1933, gave Hitler absolute power over the entire government and judiciary.

I also thought that it was because there democratic institutions were much less developed to begin with back then as they had only abolished the monarchy by around 1918. Therefore, most people in Germany, particularly the older generations of Germans, were not used to or not fully comfortable yet with having a democracy in their country during the 1920s. Then, when the Great Depression during the 1930s had devastated their country, faith in democratic institutions and parties declined as they seemed unable to address the crisis. Moreover, political divisions deepened, making it difficult for democratic institutions to function effectively.

Think of it like this - Weimer democracy was born born in the shadow of a traumatic military defeat, and the military dictatorship that ran Germany during WW1 basically did everything in their power to strangle Germany's new democracy in the crib.

Agenda item one on that list was that Germany's military leadership wanted to avoid responsibility for losing the war (and to be clear, it was their strategic decisions that lost the war). To that end, they hid how badly the war was actually going from the German public, and made sure that it was the new democracy - and not the military autocracy ran by Hindenburg and Ludendorff - that had to sign the punitive peace treaty with the allies. Even more cynically, they knowingly spread bogus conspiracy theories that Germany lost the war because the army was 'stabbed in the back' by traitors on the home front (referring to Jews and socialists). Much of the German public was willing to believe this because when the war ended, allied troops were not occupying German territory (and again, remember that the military dictatorship was misleading the public about how badly the war was going. The Germany military was on the verge of collapse when the armistice was finally signed).

Additionally, German Courts were largely filled with loyalists to the old regime which didn't believe in Weimer democracy, and gave right-wing terrorists (like Hitler) a slap on the wrist for trying to overthrow the government in the 20s, while handing out much harsher punishment to leftists who commited crimes. Part of the 'deal with the devil' of the Weimer government was in preserving elements of the old regime, to get enough of the population on board to form a national government.

In addition to this, the Weimer constitution had some structural flaws that helped to sow the seeds of its own destruction. The most devastating of these flaws was Article 48, which gave the president dictatorial powers in the event of an emergency (Hitler would use this to end all civil rights in response to the Reichstag Fire early in the Nazi's reign). Additionally, a highly representative parliamentary system brought with it unintended instability, since no single party was ever able to form a majority government, forcing parties to rely on forming coalitions to actually govern. Sounds great in theory, but in the final years of the Weimer government, the largest two parties were the Nazis and the Communists - two parties which didn't believe in democracy, and couldn't work together.

And yes, having to pay huge punitive war reparations made this already difficult situation much worse. Specifically, it made Germany much more vulnerable to the Great Depression. 

 

Edited August 3 by DocWatts

[Joshe]

"If Harris wins, a never-ending stream of illegal alien rapist, MS-13 animals and child predators will flood into your communities."
— Trump, ≈7:00 PM, 08-03-2024

[Leo Gura]

I am predicting that Kamala will win 2024.

Trump is in for an uphill battle as her popularity grows.

I just hope the economy doesn't crash before then because that could throw a wrench in the works.

Edited August 3 by Leo Gura

[Joshe]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

I am predicting that Kamala will win 2024.

I just checked out his rally in GA. It seems like a large segment of his audience knows he's full of shit and can see the overt manipulation and some of the lies. He literally just told them to the only way to stop their families getting murdered and raped is to prevent Kamala from winning. I think most of them can see through that by now, but not sure. 

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I just checked out his rally in GA. It seems like a large segment of his audience knows he's full of shit and can see the overt manipulation and some of the lies. He literally just told them to the only way to stop their families getting murdered and raped is to prevent Kamala from winning. I think most of them can see through that by now, but not sure. 

His rally people are all-in and you are not changing their deluded minds. There is no need to worry about or appeal to them.

Just appeal to normal folks who are not brainwashed by right-wing media.

[Joshe]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

There is no need to worry about or appeal to them.

Yeah, you're probably right. It sucks to have members of your inner circle this far gone though. I've split with 2 of them in the past week and it was of course them who attacked me and ran when I got too close to their foundation with my jack hammer. LOL . It's fucked up. 

[Leo Gura]

10 minutes ago, Joshe said:

I got too close to their foundation with my jack hammer.

Yeah... don't do that.