What Enlightenment Does To Your Brain

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Ramu said:

You are the absolute always.

"You" and "the Absolute" are two things. You and the Absolute. This is implying that I'm separate from all there is. No point in telling someone they are the Absolute.

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Don't get me started on the man-made concept of Spiritual bypassing.

Girl..you are so full of yourself. 

Is it beneficial for one who is seeking to tell them "There's nothing to seek" ? Seekers gonna seek until their time comes and they awaken to the futility and absurdity of existence.  You are just  spinning the wheel and isnt going anywhere. Well i guess there is no where to go and nothing to to except repeating this bullshit on a forum every day for people who will just not resonate with what you are saying . What's the point in preaching this if you've already "arrived"?No one is going to recognize the non-existence of the ego.

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Girl..you are so full of yourself. 

Is it beneficial for one who is seeking to tell them "There's nothing to seek" ? Seekers gonna seek until their time comes and they awaken to the futility and absurdity of existence.  You are just  spinning the wheel and isnt going anywhere. Well i guess there is no where to go and nothing to to except repeating this bullshit on a forum every day for people who will just not resonate with what you are saying . What's the point in preaching this if you've already "arrived"?No one is going to recognize the non-existence of the ego.

I'm not sure what it means to be full of myself.

All I said was there are no people. I don't consider that a sermon. If you notice in this response here, this more seems like a lecture and a sermon.

Edited June 21 by Princess Arabia

[Someone here]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not sure what it means to be full of myself.

Arrogant. 

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

All I said was there are no people

Can't you see them ? Maybe you need glasses 👓. 

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Someone here said:

Arrogant. 

Oh ok. I see. Hmmm. Not sure where saying "there are no people" is arrogance.

 

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Can't you see them ? Maybe you need glasses 👓

 Well, I can; but it's because of the knowledge I've attained about people, other than that all I see are bodies.

[Someone here]

@Princess Arabia what is the difference between a person and a body ? You mean the biological entity we call a person is just an inert body and there is no ego/separate self inside the body so to speak?

If That's what you mean then I want to assure you that virtually everyone here understands this .and .. We've gone far beyond the no-self realization to much higher Insights and awakenings.  Are you open to that or is it a closed deal in your mind that no-self is the be all end all ?

[Princess Arabia]

14 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Princess Arabia what is the difference between a person and a body ? You mean the biological entity we call a person is just an inert body and there is no ego/separate self inside the body so to speak?

If That's what you mean then I want to assure you that virtually everyone here understands this .and .. We've gone far beyond the no-self realization to much higher Insights and awakenings.  Are you open to that or is it a closed deal in your mind that no-self is the be all end all ?

What I'm saying is there's only that one energy powering it all. It appears as what we call humans, animals, trees, stars etc. There's no one there. It's empty. It is what's writing this right now, and it is what's responding. I'm not sure what the higher insights and awakenings you're speaking about. It's all ultimately the same. 

Now, that being said, I'm not disputing there are greater insights, awakenings, even enlightenment, but it's all just appearances. Empty. My saying what I said was just responding to your comment about no one knowing anything. You said it by implying there's actually something to know and we're all just oblivious. I was just saying there's no one to know. Doesn't mean I can't see people and in another conversation i would be saying there's no one and no people, I only brought it up to say doesn't matter if no one knows anything.

Edited June 21 by Princess Arabia

[Someone here]

6 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What I'm saying is there's only that one energy powering it all. It appears as what we call humans, animals, trees, stars etc. There's no one there. It's empty. It is what's writing this right now, and it is what's responding

Basically pantheism. A newbie in the spiritual work knows this very well .its not as if you've came up with an Einstein's theory .

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I'm not sure what the higher insights and awakenings you're speaking about. It's all ultimately the same. 

 For example That I'm literally you.  The thing looking through my eyes is the same thing looking through yours . I'm either a previous or future incarnation of you .

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

My saying what I said was just responding to your comment about no one knowing anything. You said it by implying there's actually something to know and we're all just oblivious. I was just saying there's no one to know. Doesn't mean I can't see people and in another conversation i would be saying there's no one and no people, I only brought it up to say doesn't matter if no one knows anything.

Sure.  Gotcha.  My only concern is I have a hunch that you are going through deep suffering in your practical life and you use these teachings to medicate yourself.  Of course that's just an assumption. Because at some point I did the same .

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Sure.  Gotcha.  My only concern is I have a hunch that you are going through deep suffering in your practical life and you use these teachings to medicate yourself.  Of course that's just an assumption. Because at some point I did the same .

Ok I understand. Most people (yes, I said people) suffer to an extent, depending on how deep the neurosis is or gets and the conditioning of the brain. No, I'm not going through any deep suffering. I also have a very curious nature. Curious about life and existence. I'm not using this to self-medicate. I find it fascinating and at the same time recognizing certain things as I go. These things I talk about have become obvious to me. As I observe and see how people respond, react and the things being said and inquired about, it even becomes more obvious. Nothing has been disputed so far and it's something i've resonated with. 

 

[Someone here]

@Princess Arabia OK dear .Happy for you that you have clarity 🙏

[Carl-Richard]

7 hours ago, Ramu said:

If youve seen and understood the videos, and are awake, then you should also understand that brains shouldn't enter into the discussion.   It's irrelevant. 

I don't understand. Enlightened people tend to act a certain way, so why can't their brains act a certain way?

[Yimpa]

7 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

@Ramu

Do a surgery to remove your brain.

Later, you should experiment writing on the forum.

Can you write without a brain?

 

[CARDOZZO]

Curiosity: you can be enlightened and understand science and understand the power of your brain and being a solipsist.

"Don't make the universal the destroyer of the specific"

 

[Carl-Richard]

Just now, CARDOZZO said:

"Don't make the universal the destroyer of the specific"

Now, that required a brain 🧠😛

[VictorB02]

On 6/18/2024 at 5:57 PM, CARDOZZO said:

I need your help, Enlightened Wizards!  

Do you agree with his perspectives on the effect of enlightenment on the brain?

How is your day-to-day experience post-enlightenment?

 

 

I like Dr. K. He is bringing a lot of Eastern Philosophy to a massive Gen-Z audience and tying it in with modern science and psychiatry. I see that as a good thing, regardless of if he has glimpsed The Infinite himself or not.

But from what I've heard listening to him, he has a pretty decent understanding of the entire field of spirituality and a good amount of training as a traditional yogi.

Net positive from my perspective.

Edited June 22 by VictorB02

[Yimpa]

Dr. K is great, I am taking his ADHD course module.

Still can’t compete with Dr. Ketamine, though 

[UnbornTao]

11 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

I don't understand. Enlightened people tend to act a certain way, so why can't their brains act a certain way?

What way is that?

[An young being]

Everything converges towards the truth, no matter if it is devotional, moral, spiritual or rational.

[UnbornTao]

@Ramu I'd be careful not to presume that one is "awake" so readily.

[UnbornTao]

There is a fair share of fantasy in the way he's speaking about it. To start with, he may be referring to a state of some sort. Enlightenment isn't about achieving something like a different experience, no matter how unusual or powerful. If this business is not about the relative domain and is already inherently true, would it affect the brain? What would be measured, and how would we go about measuring it? A causal relationship would have to be established between what we call "enlightenment" and its effects on the body, which may be non-existent in the first place.

Then again, the brain might be rewired as a byproduct of the increased consciousness, even though this would still be a secondary process and may not be guaranteed. It might also be the case that such realization empowers you in ways that facilitate health, learning, and other things, but this has to be accomplished by you. Besides, different results occur for different people. For example, after a direct consciousness, certain characteristic behaviors and attachments might not come up for you anymore which would yield positive results, yet this would be a function of freedom and of what your self "does" with the realization, so to speak. In any case, we'd be talking about side-effects.

Regarding happiness, wanting it precludes yourself from being happy, since this search produces a split between happiness and you. Pursuing it implicitly concedes that you're unhappy now and need to achieve things and manage specific circumstances in order to get "it". However: Is the "it" in this case happiness or something else entirely? 

There, something.

Edited June 23 by UnbornTao