holy shit! what did i just experience ?

[Majed]

i experienced a state of consciousness where nothing was here anymore, no person, no me, no other, no place, just pure free consciousness.

Edited June 18 by Majed

[Yimpa]

[VictorB02]

The tail of The Ox!

[Rafael Thundercat]

5 hours ago, Majed said:

i experienced a state of consciousness where nothing was here anymore, no person, no me, no other, no place, just pure free consciousness.

And you came here very fast to tell other about it. Integrate a bit is good.

[Princess Arabia]

What/Who noticed/experienced this.

[Ishanga]

8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What/Who noticed/experienced this.

He did, the "I" that comes here as an Appearance, Appearances are just another label of Human, or Physical Reality, that is why we are here, to explore and experience these Appearances.. The Point of it all, its too eventually go beyond this "I" and make it a "We" or "All", while still embodied...

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Ishanga said:

The Point of it all,

Says who, the "I"? Is it the I that created this "point of it all"?

[Ishanga]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Says who, the "I"? Is it the I that created this "point of it all"?

Of Course, just like You create this "Nothing to do about Nothing" Philosophy, its all self created via some sort of learning or conditioning, its just that some conditioning/learning binds us, others release us to further our Potential..

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Ishanga said:

Of Course, just like You create this "Nothing to do about Nothing" Philosophy, its all self created via some sort of learning or conditioning, its just that some conditioning/learning binds us, others release us to further our Potential..

You interpret what I've said in the past as me saying "nothing to do about nothing". If I was to ask you to reference words that were said by me where I've said verbatim " there's nothing to do about nothing", you couldn't. 

What you have said is also a learnt and conditioned response. Nothing wrong with it, but it's just thought about another thought. It's all learning and conditioning. The nothing to do about nothing interpretation that you've given what I've said in the past is just that - an interpretation; which can be interpreted in many different ways depending on the filter being used to interpret it. It's all interpretation. 

[Ishanga]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You interpret what I've said in the past as me saying "nothing to do about nothing". If I was to ask you to reference words that were said by me where I've said verbatim " there's nothing to do about nothing", you couldn't. 

What you have said is also a learnt and conditioned response. Nothing wrong with it, but it's just thought about another thought. It's all learning and conditioning. The nothing to do about nothing interpretation that you've given what I've said in the past is just that - an interpretation; which can be interpreted in many different ways depending on the filter being used to interpret it. It's all interpretation. 

Yes, that is why we are not talking or communicating about anything of "Real" Substance, since this is the Spirituality forum, we cannot discuss or communicate about this on a direct level, that is only done via personal Experience, the rest as You say is all Interpretation, which for sure can be mis Interpreted and probably is, but its all we have in this sort of realm to learn about one another, at least on the basic level, higher up levels ppl can know other ppl via other ways that are more intuitive and natural without using words like we are here, in person communication is mostly body language from what I understand which is a higher up level of communication btwn ppl that what we are doing here... 

[Ishanga]

@Princess Arabia My interpretation of most of what You say on the Spiritual Side of things as of late is "nothing to do about nothing" to it in simple words:)

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

@Princess Arabia My interpretation of most of what You say on the Spiritual Side of things as of late is "nothing to do about nothing" to it in simple words:)

"Nothing to do about nothing". That is not even a grammatically correct statement - much less an accurate interpretation. Two negatives in a sentence cancels each other out and is redundant. Not calling you out on the grammar, as we've all blundered in that department, and this is not English class; but at least try to interpret in a way that is interpretable(sic).Yes, I know that's not grammatically correct either; but I was only trying to balance out my interpretation of your mis-interpretation. Lol.

Doesn't matter either way because there's nothing you or I can say that can change what is.

To sum up what I've been saying is this: There's no one in these bodies. They are just bodies operating mechanically. There are no choices being made. Choices are just happening, but by no one. Existence/Life, Reality/The Absolute, whatever you want to call it, is all there is. It's alive and conscious. There's no one that's conscious in the Absolute sense because that's duality which doesn't exist in the Absolute sense. The Absolute is conscious of itself so if a human is also conscious of itself that's separation, which ultimately isn't the case in existence - it's all ONE, or not two which is just another term for non-duality, which also doesn't exist in the Absolute sense because that implies duality of which there's ultimately none. 

If this is the case, where is the "I" that's doing anything but only within it's dream. This is why we say life is a dream. It never really happened but only appears so. Appearances are not actual and the only thing real is the Emptiness from which everything appears. Maya is the illusion of life which isn't really an illusion; because for an illusion to occur, time and space is needed which are also illusions. That's the paradox. Everything that arises from the "I" energy has within it an appearance that seems real. That's it's nature. So, if there's an "I", there has to be space for that "I" to appear that is separate from an object of awareness. Both consciousness and awareness are illusions also because they both require for there to be objects of consciousness and awareness/to be conscious and aware of. That's the dream. 

There's nothing one can do to get out of this conscious/awareness state because that implies a self doing that. It just falls away naturally and reveals there was noone there in the first place.

[Ishanga]

This "Appearances are not Actual" is an oxymoron, if it appears it is Actual, and there is something making choices, the choices are not on an Absolute level, they are on this level of existence, the ordinary plane material dual level we are functioning in, its just that Humans can experience Life beyond this, they can experience Life in the Absolute level, this is why its important to Realize I am Not the Body or Mind, when that is established then one will Realize the Absolute, but we still have a Body/Mind to use while here...

Edited June 19 by Ishanga

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Ishanga said:

this is why its important to Realize I am Not the Body or Mind, when that is established then one will Realize the Absolute, but we still have a Body/Mind to use while here...

Ok, fine. I get this. I don't get up everyday saying oh well there's no one in this body or life is a dream or this is Maya or this is an illusion and I'm not the body/mind. Life goes on. There's a resonance with what I said and it can be recognized, realized or intuited but its energetic. Certain things can fall away to reveal certain things as never was. The Absolute cannot be realized, as that realization would also be the Absolute.

Anyway, these are just words and words cannot point to the Absolute since they are also the Absolute. So, anything you or I can say about it is also it. Life goes on. I'm here, you're there and even with all this illusion talk, shit feels real and it's undeniable and the show continues until it doesn't.

[Rafael Thundercat]

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, fine. I get this. I don't get up everyday saying oh well there's no one in this body or life is a dream or this is Maya or this is an illusion and I'm not the body/mind. Life goes on. There's a resonance with what I said and it can be recognized, realized or intuited but its energetic. Certain things can fall away to reveal certain things as never was. The Absolute cannot be realized, as that realization would also be the Absolute.

Anyway, these are just words and words cannot point to the Absolute since they are also the Absolute. So, anything you or I can say about it is also it. Life goes on. I'm here, you're there and even with all this illusion talk, shit feels real and it's undeniable and the show continues until it doesn't.

Same with me. Is good to have some "Questioning Reality" sometimes, but in general is just " hey, one more day in this dream" now what?? ahhh.. ah yes.. Coffee.. and keep going

[Ishanga]

7 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, fine. I get this. I don't get up everyday saying oh well there's no one in this body or life is a dream or this is Maya or this is an illusion and I'm not the body/mind. Life goes on. There's a resonance with what I said and it can be recognized, realized or intuited but its energetic. Certain things can fall away to reveal certain things as never was. The Absolute cannot be realized, as that realization would also be the Absolute.

Anyway, these are just words and words cannot point to the Absolute since they are also the Absolute. So, anything you or I can say about it is also it. Life goes on. I'm here, you're there and even with all this illusion talk, shit feels real and it's undeniable and the show continues until it doesn't.

Yes Words are quite useless in this regard... If I were to council someone on Spiritual Matters, I would not talk to them about Absolute, God, or Enlightenment, I would just allow them to have first a Stress Response Free Life, no over reacting, just conscious responding, no living past or future, only live NOW but using past and future, and Accepting all that is as it is, if one does these basic mental tricks, no stress response will happen, the Life will take over, and flow over in an intense way, then they will be on their way to the stuff we all talk about uselessly around here, lol..if they choose it, maybe they will just choose to have a Great Human Life, and be done it:)