Putin visits North Korea

[Yimpa]

No surprises here… love works in mysterious ways 

[Jayson G]

@Leo Gura how is ukraine corrupt? isnt ukraine just doing its thing and russias taking over for their own selfish reasons? The president also seems like a mini chuchill trying to get his uk back lol .. I dont know too much about politics but this whole time I thought they are pretty evolved?

[Leo Gura]

53 minutes ago, Jayson G said:

how is ukraine corrupt?

Ukraine's corruption is unrelated to this war. Corruption is just rampant there.

[Jayson G]

@Leo Gura oh wow, well thats new to hear, ill look into it 

[zazen]

11 hours ago, Heaven said:

You choose what side of history you wanna be.

If you support: Russia/Iran(Lebanon,Gaza,Egypt,Turkey)/North Korea. Who are corrupt, dictatorships, abusive and unethical.

Or you support: Ukraine, Israel, USA. Who values freedom, human rights and ethical.

It cannot be more obvious.

 

The West has seduced the world their Marilyn Monroe while hiding a Ted Bundy kill kit under their skirt - a serial killer of sovereignty masquerading as a pin up girl of liberty.

Their imperfect democracy has you casting votes that mean less and less. You think a few vested interests were going to just relinquish power and put their fate in the hands of the many? As the right to vote expanded, the relevance of the vote contracted. They gave the people a gramophone to scream through whilst erecting a soundproof room around them.

They've given the freedom to shout into the void, protest in circles, publicly debate within the accepted spectrum of opinions and to vote for two cheeks of the same political ass that is the deep states. As long no one disrupts the status quo, they can have all the freedom they want.

This freedom is predicated upon irrelevance - the people remaining irrelevant enough to not disrupt power and profits. Freedom of speech is there but not freedom of reach - if you reach enough minds to have a sizeable influence they’ll get their tentacles on you to subvert or cancel you.

Their ethics is “it’s okay when we do it but not when you do it”.

 

Edited June 22 by zazen

[Danioover9000]

@Jayson G

2 hours ago, Jayson G said:

@Leo Gura oh wow, well thats new to hear, ill look into it 

   One example of Ukraine corruption, just like Russia, is the police pull overs. You still need to have spar cash at hand to bribe the police away, or they make you stop more inconvenient for you. Same thing in Russia but more corrupt. Also corruption in their politics as well, behind closed doors of course.

[Karmadhi]

15 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.

Not true. There are corruption index for this. Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in Europe for sure, but Europe is a high standard.

2023 Corruption Perceptions Index: Explore the… - Transparency.org

According to this Ukraine rains 104th in the world out of 180 countries.

So it is unfair to call it one of the most corrupt. But it definitely is corrupt. And for European standards it is super corrupt. 

I think their undemocratic decision to not have elections and keep Zelensky as a de factor leader is much more problematic than the corruption.

 

Edited June 22 by Karmadhi

[Karmadhi]

15 hours ago, Heaven said:

Or you support: Ukraine, Israel, USA. Who values freedom, human rights and ethical.

 

I would like you to fake yourself a Palestinian passport, go to the West Bank pretending to be a Palestinian and live there for 1 month. Then tell me how much they care about "human rights".

UN human rights chief: situation in West Bank 'drastically deteriorating' | Reuters

Israel: 50 Years of Occupation Abuses | Human Rights Watch (hrw.org)

Saying Israel cares about human rights is delusional.

Of course, as a Jew you do not see it like this because Israel treats them super well.

Therefore faking a Palestinian passport and going to West Bank is necessary to get the legit experience.

And before you say "West Bank is not Israel", well they currently put settlements there, do not recognize it as another country and have presence so it falls under Israeli jurisdiction .

Edited June 22 by Karmadhi

[Sincerity]

Reminds me of this video I watched months ago:

[nerdspeak]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Ukraine's corruption is unrelated to this war. Corruption is just rampant there.

Bribery is necessary to simply survive in Ukraine. To get any public service, including healthcare and university exam results, requires bribes.

You could argue it’s just cultural difference though, as it’s done in a very systematic and organized way.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, nerdspeak said:

Bribery is necessary to simply survive in Ukraine. To get any public service, including healthcare and university exam results, requires bribes.

You could argue it’s just cultural difference though, as it’s done in a very systematic and organized way.

That's not a cultural difference, that's a developmental difference.

[Yimpa]

 

[bebotalk]

Such an alliance makes perfect sense.

They are both anti-Western, and Putin knows he needs all the allies he can get at the moment.