Zizek Challenges Peterson: "Set Your House in Order Before You Change the World?"

[eTorro]

Please, let me break it down to you:

1) Zizek is NOT saying one should leave one's house untidy, but simply that we can have it both ways: not just set our house in order, but ALSO try to change the world in the meantime. They should not be mutually exclusive things. Zizek's house is meticulously tidy (look at his VICE interview). The argument that Zizek is just trying to justify his mess at his house is not only nonsense but childish;

2) Zizek is just saying that real change does not begin with personal responsibility (like Gandhi thought with his famous "Be yourself the change you want to see in the world"), but by addressing the way society itself reproduces itself. Individual responsibility, for Zizek, is an ideological trick whose ultimate aim is precisely to AVOID radical change, a false bargain. His example of ecology goes in the same direction: the more we are told we are personally responsible for ecological catastrophes, the less mega changes in the way the system reproduces itself are made.

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 16/06/2024 at 7:05 AM, eTorro said:

ndividual responsibility, for Zizek, is an ideological trick whose ultimate aim is precisely to AVOID radical change, a false bargain. His example of ecology goes in the same direction: the more we are told we are personally responsible for ecological catastrophes, the less mega changes in the way the system reproduces itself are made.

Well, I am not Owner of a Oil Company. Yes, I can consume less plastic and make less use of Car, but if Oil company People was not profiting in their Oil Activites I would not need to worry with control my platic use and car use. But of course, there would be a lot of things I would need to accept to live without. The board of my computer is made of Plastic, and I used my car to go buy it in the Shooping, a place full of Plastic, and Trucks coming and going using Fuel. So what is personal responsability and what is Big Players responsability,

 

[Danioover9000]

@eTorro

On 2024-06-16 at 7:05 AM, eTorro said:

Please, let me break it down to you:

1) Zizek is NOT saying one should leave one's house untidy, but simply that we can have it both ways: not just set our house in order, but ALSO try to change the world in the meantime. They should not be mutually exclusive things. Zizek's house is meticulously tidy (look at his VICE interview). The argument that Zizek is just trying to justify his mess at his house is not only nonsense but childish;

2) Zizek is just saying that real change does not begin with personal responsibility (like Gandhi thought with his famous "Be yourself the change you want to see in the world"), but by addressing the way society itself reproduces itself. Individual responsibility, for Zizek, is an ideological trick whose ultimate aim is precisely to AVOID radical change, a false bargain. His example of ecology goes in the same direction: the more we are told we are personally responsible for ecological catastrophes, the less mega changes in the way the system reproduces itself are made.

  Zizek should clean his voice before bitching about Jordan's!🤣

[Thought Art]

Hard to change the world when you can’t even make your own damn bed.