Tristan Tate: How to Attract a Girl

[Princess Arabia]

I watched the video. This is what high end prostitutes, gold diggers and sugar daddy lookers train to do. If you take what he says and replace it with the above-mentioned, it's the same exact thing, except for a few differences. 

The main difference is he's coaching how to get laid and these women are being coached at how to get paid.

Unfortunately, these women get a bad rap and gets labeled as the above mentioned and these guys gets to be the king of the town. 

This is the problem I have when women are being put down for simply trying to get paid by consenting adults and gets blamed and ridiculed and called sluts and whores and std carriers and low consciousness. 

There are levels to this shit where a lot of these women aren't even having sex or being careless in their sexual encounters. They are getting trained at how to not even have sex with their targets, as Mr Tate here refereed to the women as. Same thing. The women call them targets too. 

It seems to be ok when men get trained on how to sleep with beautiful women but not when beautiful women are trying to get paid by men who are willing. He's not speaking about how to manipulate and scheme, he's coaching on how to make yourself wanted by these women. Same with the above mentioned.

He's suggesting for the men to work on themselves and to become a better target for these beautiful women. The above mentioned are also taught the same, to level up and become better at targeting and getting what they want and desire. 

Women get shamed for it while men get praised. Praised for sleeping around with dozens of women and having multiples. 

I say it's a shame that this is the way it is and thats why I don't make any excuses for my lifestyle and what I do. I do what I do without needing to have sex and multiple sex partners, but these men are sticking it to as many as their dicks can handle. Whose the whore there. Yes, there are pros that work the street and have to do the diddly, but there are plenty of workers who aren't or even not as much maybe on occasion and are getting well paid for it. Like I said there are levels to this shit. I can get paid $300 just for talkin or just showing my boobs. Or just going to dinner and relaxing on the town. Way more at times for no hard-core sexual contact. Just petty shit. Some guys are willing with no hang ups about it and go on their merry way. 

Yes, shit happens sometimes but it's not most of the time if you're not a street walker and are low-key and target the right guy who is willing and doesn't mind the company of a beautiful woman who is un business as long as she knows how to carry herself and is of a high calibre. Some even go on to be lawyers and doctors out of college where their college fees were paid by some of these men. 

About the video, though, I saw nothing wrong with it as it's a choice to do this and it wasn't a scheming and manipulation of women and tricking them. It's all adult play and he was very tactful in explaining his position. 

[integral]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I see zero reason to judge a girl I saw for 0.5 seconds.

How are you filtering out scam artists in business? Your got to make rational judgements based on many factors, Its the same thing with dating. If you see an Instagram post of a guy with a bunch of Ferraris selling you shit Are you going to do business with him? All the red flags are there are you going to do business with him?

The point of my post was to explain how you got a filter out 99% of women you’re not compatible with and how else you gonna do that.

If you’re not generalizing to narrow down to a potential match you’re gonna date a bunch of people you’re not compatible with wasting a lot of time.

You guys misrepresented everything I said and misinterpreted as a kind of negative judgement.

I did not make an absolute statement about that woman I’m just making a generalization to help people understand you don’t wanna be dating these Women that look like they are webcam girls. And that camgirls are not 10/10 because of personality trauma and a bunch of compatibility problems. Have higher standards. I was trying to explain that him presenting a woman as a 10 out of 10 is a scam sales pitch that woman isn’t the highest pinnacle of a woman that you could be dating because it’s subjective and most people on this form or not compatible with this type of woman. It’s gonna be a nightmare.

Edited June 15 by integral

[Something Funny]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I see zero reason to judge a girl I saw for 0.5 seconds.

Isn't that what you do when you decide who to approach on the street?

I think that's just how human brain works. 

P.S. "Judge" as in assess, not criticize

[Something Funny]

@Princess Arabia Tate Brothers and pickup artists in general get a tonn of hate

[petar8p]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I watched the video. This is what high end prostitutes, gold diggers and sugar daddy lookers train to do. If you take what he says and replace it with the above-mentioned, it's the same exact thing, except for a few differences. 

The main difference is he's coaching how to get laid and these women are being coached at how to get paid.

Unfortunately, these women get a bad rap and gets labeled as the above mentioned and these guys gets to be the king of the town. 

This is the problem I have when women are being put down for simply trying to get paid by consenting adults and gets blamed and ridiculed and called sluts and whores and std carriers and low consciousness. 

There are levels to this shit where a lot of these women aren't even having sex or being careless in their sexual encounters. They are getting trained at how to not even have sex with their targets, as Mr Tate here refereed to the women as. Same thing. The women call them targets too. 

It seems to be ok when men get trained on how to sleep with beautiful women but not when beautiful women are trying to get paid by men who are willing. He's not speaking about how to manipulate and scheme, he's coaching on how to make yourself wanted by these women. Same with the above mentioned.

He's suggesting for the men to work on themselves and to become a better target for these beautiful women. The above mentioned are also taught the same, to level up and become better at targeting and getting what they want and desire. 

Women get shamed for it while men get praised. Praised for sleeping around with dozens of women and having multiples. 

I say it's a shame that this is the way it is and thats why I don't make any excuses for my lifestyle and what I do. I do what I do without needing to have sex and multiple sex partners, but these men are sticking it to as many as their dicks can handle. Whose the whore there. Yes, there are pros that work the street and have to do the diddly, but there are plenty of workers who aren't or even not as much maybe on occasion and are getting well paid for it. Like I said there are levels to this shit. I can get paid $300 just for talkin or just showing my boobs. Or just going to dinner and relaxing on the town. Way more at times for no hard-core sexual contact. Just petty shit. Some guys are willing with no hang ups about it and go on their merry way. 

Yes, shit happens sometimes but it's not most of the time if you're not a street walker and are low-key and target the right guy who is willing and doesn't mind the company of a beautiful woman who is un business as long as she knows how to carry herself and is of a high calibre. Some even go on to be lawyers and doctors out of college where their college fees were paid by some of these men. 

About the video, though, I saw nothing wrong with it as it's a choice to do this and it wasn't a scheming and manipulation of women and tricking them. It's all adult play and he was very tactful in explaining his position. 

Yes there'e a lot of truth to this.. 

I sometimes feel bitter about OF girls, but then I challenge myself and honestly ask myself is there  anything wrong with what they're doing, as long as it stays private for subscription.. I would say no. The way worse is being a guy who has to pay for naked pictures and videos haha...

Unfortunately, the men are always going to get praised for sleeping with loads of women, as most guys cannot manage to find one, and we kind of feel good for each other in that respect. It shows that you have some value. 

For girls however, I think what is being hated is taking an easier route. It's still their valid choice though, but as you said, you can earn a lot just by going out with these guys. And in capitalism, there isn't anything wrong with it, it's just an opportunity. 

It's easy for a beautiful girl to find lots of males willing to pay or do anything to be with them. I think women giving access to their physical bodies can ruin her mentally. I'm sure there are some services that are ethically and spiritually fine though. It's just that such niche always leads to offers that include sexual exchange and selling your body in some way. If you get $300 for a nice dinner with a guy you don't care about then the next thing is having to decline $2000 for a night of sex with someone.. Then you start calculating why should I go to all these dinners weekly, when in one night I can earn the same amount and not have to work for a week, etc. 

It's just a rigged path for most, but those who can control themselves and work just on quality of their service, I guess are good..

[zurew]

@integral You were making huge inferences based on a fraction of data. If you want to talk about making somewhat reliable inferences, then the first step should be to collect as much data as possible (no one forced you to make an extensive assessment , based on 5 seconds of data - you made that decision yourself).

Your very idea about what kind of patterns you should be looking for and what should be considered as a red flag, isn't necessarily grounded in general statistics (where you would have a huge pool of people and would see that pattern showing up every time given that particular datapoint[red flag]) , its grounded in your extremely small dataset.

Obviously everyone is using red flags (as a proxy) to make inferences about other people. But the amount of data you collect,will have a huge weight on the validity of that assessment. In most of the cases, even when you have a huge dataset - that set will have thousands(if not millions) of logically possible explanations, but you will base your probability judgement on those that you are aware of ( so you are grounding your judgement in what you are aware of and not in what is logically possible - which can be like this: being aware of 5 explanations vs having 5000 logically possible explanations).

Its fine to make certain judgements based on what you are aware of and not based on what is logically possible, but you should always acknowledge the limitations of that assessment and you should never conflate it with an assessment that is grounded in what is logically possible.

Three relevant things to consider are: 

1. What should be considered as a red flag (a datapoint that you can use to make reliable inferences about a person)
2. How much data you should collect, before you make your assessment
3. What negative consequences can come from making a wrong assumption

 

People here disagree with how reliable your assessment was and with what you consider as a red flag.

Edited June 15 by zurew

[integral]

@zurew I agree that’s The right way to go about it.

But then who really cares I’m not being serious about this assessment. This was not about assessing someone I’m just pointing to general red flags and I’m trying to reframe this woman is not the pinnacle of woman you want to be dating. 0/10 is for shock value, explain that what you think is a 10 is probably not someone you actually want to have anything to do it. Strippers look like 10/10 it’s a deception.

All of this is so basic but you’ve turned it into a witchhunt for misogyny and judgement.

A Guy showing off his Ferraris and telling you he’s gonna make you millions it’s a safe bet he’s scamming you.

Tristan Tate is showing off one out of many girls he’s having sex with, that’s the context is this girl the 10 out of 10 that he’s telling you? Probably not.

Edited June 15 by integral

[Leo Gura]

9 hours ago, Something Funny said:

Isn't that what you do when you decide who to approach on the street?

I think that's just how human brain works. 

P.S. "Judge" as in assess, not criticize

I don't judge her as a person, I just decide whether I would be satisfied sleeping with her. Because if I wouldn't be satisfied it would be a waste of her time.

[Something Funny]

@Leo Gura okay, I understand.

[zurew]

3 hours ago, integral said:

All of this is so basic but you’ve turned it into a witchhunt for misogyny and judgement.

Why would you call me out on me making certain inferences about you, based on little data ? I thought thats what we are doing here. 

 

But on a more serious note - look, I understand that sometimes we make inferences based on little data - I just think this partcular one  was weird (I would almost put it equivalent to saying that people with curly hair will be horrible life partners). But I don't think we will solve this disagreement (and we don't need to), because you would need to show me data that you are right (so at this point this is just my intuition vs your intuition regarding how correct your inference was).

[Princess Arabia]

11 hours ago, petar8p said:

The way worse is being a guy who has to pay for naked pictures and videos haha..

A guy could be married or have a steady gf and still watch these videos and pay a subscription. You'd be surprised. What makes you think these guys feel as if they have to; no, they like to do this kind of stuff. Plenty of men who are getting laid are still patronizing these girls. Men come in all different sizes in respect to what they like sexually. Some like strip clubs, some like pros, some like web cam, some like to watch porn, some like massage parlors, some like to subscribe to sites like OF...some like to go around town approaching women just to sleep with them, some like to go get a gf and just be with her and her alone. Lots of guys don't have to, they just do it for variety.

 

11 hours ago, petar8p said:

Unfortunately, the men are always going to get praised for sleeping with loads of women, as most guys cannot manage to find one, and we kind of feel good for each other in that respect. It shows that you have some value. 

Men aren't getting praised for sleeping with loads of women because it's hard to find one; it's because it's socially acceptable. Men aren't being called sluts and whores for sleeping around, they're being called players and Don Juan's like Mr Tristan Tate here. 

 

11 hours ago, petar8p said:

For girls however, I think what is being hated is taking an easier route. It's still their valid choice though, but as you said, you can earn a lot just by going out with these guys. And in capitalism, there isn't anything wrong with it, it's just an opportunity. 

What makes you think it's because it's an easier route. There's a market for this just like there's a market for video games. Women are being labelled and hated and called out for doing something there's a market for. Why not hate on the men that are patronizing. Trust me, more men would be doing this if they could, there's just not a very large market for it and most men in this field are servicing other men and maybe some older women as in cougars. Some men just appreciate women and don't mind taking care of them for services rendered. They don't want a relationship or marriage and this is the next best way of having the company of beautiful women without the emotional hassle. Some men won't do it because it makes them feel like they aren't worthy to be loved without paying for company; but some don't mind and it's those men that the industry is for. Nothing wrong either way. It's not about it being an easy route, it's just another service paying job. There's no need to look down upon it when it's the men who find a need for it and are willing. 

 

11 hours ago, petar8p said:

It's easy for a beautiful girl to find lots of males willing to pay or do anything to be with them. I think women giving access to their physical bodies can ruin her mentally. I'm sure there are some services that are ethically and spiritually fine though. It's just that such niche always leads to offers that include sexual exchange and selling your body in some way. If you get $300 for a nice dinner with a guy you don't care about then the next thing is having to decline $2000 for a night of sex with someone.. Then you start calculating why should I go to all these dinners weekly, when in one night I can earn the same amount and not have to work for a week, etc.

You're ahead of yourself here. You're using logic and calculations to figure out a business that's not built around logic and reasoning. Also why did you have to say " with a guy I don't care about". It's a business. Guys have a hard time seeing this. It's not about caring or not caring it's about satisfying. Do guys run around caring about every girl that they sleep with; why does an escort have to care about a dinner date she's getting paid for. There's no hate, but there's no love either, so what. Plenty of people are in relationships and marriages where they don't love their spouses or even care about them; at least in this business it's upfront, understood, and both are willing. 

[petar8p]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

because it's socially acceptable.

Yeah, and I'm telling you there is something to back up that social acceptibility... The fact that not anyone can do it and shows some proof of value..

 

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

What makes you think it's because it's an easier route. There's a market for this just like there's a market for video games.

Yeah, there's a market, with that I agree, and it's not an easy route as a lot of girls are currently trying to get money off of seducing men..  i just think it is an easier route compared to normal business building and something that works for them without using their hot bodies/sexuality. I don't wanna argue it's what they shouldn't use, but it is definitely an easier way of making money than building a business that brings value in different sorts of ways..

 

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

Also why did you have to say " with a guy I don't care about". It's a business.

Exactly. It's because you're there mostly for the money. And I don't judge it. I agree men would be even worse. My argument is that the higher offer would make y'all do something you are not completely in the line with from the beggining, ethically and mental-health wise.  Those are just guesses however, and I am getting ahead of myself. But I can just argue from a man stand-point nonetheless

 

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Do guys run around caring about every girl that they sleep with;

No, but they should aim for that.

 

[Ulax]

On 6/14/2024 at 7:00 PM, integral said:

The girl he showcased the first five seconds of the video I consider a 0/10.

0/10 ... brutal 😂

[Yimpa]

On 6/14/2024 at 1:00 PM, integral said:

The girl he showcased the first five seconds of the video I consider a 0/10.

2 minutes ago, Ulax said:

0/10 ... brutal 😂

Not unless your approaching a dyslexic chic 

[integral]

6 hours ago, zurew said:

Why would you call me out on me making certain inferences about you, based on little data ? I thought thats what we are doing here. 

All good I was responding from the previous frame that people set me up for. That I’m a lowlife lol

it makes sense to collect data and then create a correlation between appearances and mental states and then we can derive some kind of pattern. If we just do something superficial like spiral dynamics generally stage green is gonna look a specific way and stage orange will look a specific way and stage blue can look a specific way. Aesthetically each stage of development has a different preference but there’s plenty of variation within each stage. It’s not black-and-white. Stage green is less likely to wear make up but that doesn’t mean they don’t wear make up. We can further use a different model and then make a correlation between the big five or MBTI and start drawing patterns between what they wear and how their mind works, we could further draw patterns between someone’s genetics (facial structure ) and how their mind works. None of these are absolutes but there’s enough patterns that we can start seeing a correlation. So if you went through your life trying to find these patterns eventually you’ll see them and you can start making judgements from probability. So If you were just gambling where would you place your bet?

You want concrete data but it doesn’t exist yet I’m just speaking from my own connections I’ve made consuming media and then connecting all the models to all the patterns.

it’s a safe bet that Tristan Tate and the ecosystem he is surrounding himself with which is club girls and strippers and cam girls are going to be at red or orange and unlikely to have certain degrees of self development. for all I know they could turquoise but how likely really is that?

I said that she 0/10 based on my personal preference which is only based of compatibility. I personally don’t care what someone looks like I would have sex with anything that moves. I only try to assess people based on my compatibility with them and not based on appearances which is the exact opposite of what Im being accused of lol.

I also said that she’s going to be an emotional nightmare and that was to paint a picture of the type of relationship Tristian Tate has with people that he builds off of a superficial empire. I’m not saying she’s actually like that I’m just saying the 10 /10 automatic knee-jerk reaction and sales pitch is deceptively not true.

His relationships will also be superficial most likely, maybe I’m wrong maybe they’re the most fulfilling relationships these women have ever had. But again where are you gonna place your bet? If you attract women with a sociopathic strategy what kind of relationship are you really having with these people? What kind of people are you attracting?

Let’s go back to concrete data in the near future we can train AI models to go through all the content of the Internet and then fact check this kind of broad connection. We give it the task to make a correlation between someone’s appearance and their mental state. The result will be some kind of appearance versus mental state percentage with a list of thousands of different connections.

Example: porcelain doll picture -> souvlaki cultural exposure -> sexual development stage two -> spiritual development stage one -> personality type (esfp) -> SD red -> anima development stage three -> …

We could have infinite metrics and each one will have some kind of percentage of how probable or how common the relationship is.

AI will open up the floodgates for pattern recognition.

We can invent many insightful models just by analyzing the Contant that is already present on the Internet, it’s just up to this point we had no easy way to do it at scale. AI can understand meaning which means you can start making deeper connections between seemingly unrelated topics at scale.

Edited June 15 by integral