Overcoming the therapist agenda

[bebotalk]

it's my albeit unpopular opinion that therapists have an agenda.

they want to just push their own opinions and values onto people. this is especially true with the health system of my country.

they actively select people to impart their morals towards, including misogyny, homophobia and classism. they don't follow the book or clinical practice. and they get excused by saying "They're only human!!" that makes no sense. if a police officer arbitrarily smashes a windscreen on a simple traffic stop, is this "only being human"? "being human" is following basic instructions and practices. we do this in school, at home, etc. since they're a bunch of charlatans, i hold a disdain for the, and I don't associate with anybody who is a therapist in real life. 

 

 

[integral]

Are you living in a Third World country mostly in the conformist stage of cultural development?

That’s an interesting experiment where you take someone who fundamentally cannot stop judging and you put in a position where they need to be nonjudgmental 😂, so they’re taking their education and then reframing it to suit their worldview and to interpret from their worldview. They don’t know that they’re interpreting and they don’t know that they have an agenda and they don’t know that they’re being homophobic. The Cherry on top is that society validated them by giving them a status position as a doctor or physician.

Have you asked them why they’re homophobic seeing as you’re paying them by hour?

if you ever try challenging someone who has a sense of status over you it never ends well. They’re easily insulted.

Edited June 14 by integral

[Jodistrict]

I have found therapists to be useless.   They actually have less human relating skills than the average person.    

[Yimpa]

Yes, this is possible. It is rare to find one who is beyond such games.

Edited June 15 by Yimpa

[bebotalk]

4 hours ago, Lila9 said:

Ugh, that's why I fear therapists, even though my personal experience with therapists was good and pretty helpful. 

I don't fear therapists because they are therapists but because they are humans. 

But then because you have a pretty face, you get to decide who says or does what in life lol. 

i won't ever do as you say. why must I? don't you say you believe in autonomy? 

[Gladius]

In my opinion, therapists are just people, if that makes sense. Their job is listening to you ande detecting patterns, but of course they have their own weaknesses and you should be careful with taking their feedback as word of God.

[bebotalk]

On 16/06/2024 at 9:25 AM, Gladius said:

In my opinion, therapists are just people, if that makes sense. Their job is listening to you ande detecting patterns, but of course they have their own weaknesses and you should be careful with taking their feedback as word of God.

they're trained and are experts. like how mechanics are experts. so then their profession is faulty if experts given laypeople who seek their help guidance. 

[bebotalk]

I find often it;s people from India or parts of Asia where society specialises in degrading people, who find the concept of therapists treating people equally offensive. is it that offensive, it stops you from caring for your kids, doing your job, earning a living, or being content? if so, maybe said people need therapists. 

[Ajay0]

4 hours ago, bebotalk said:

I find often it;s people from India or parts of Asia where society specialises in degrading people, who find the concept of therapists treating people equally offensive. is it that offensive, it stops you from caring for your kids, doing your job, earning a living, or being content? if so, maybe said people need therapists. 

I think you need to meet a therapist to get rid of conditioned prejudices and biases as well as inner psychological insecurities and complexes that may be damaging your social and professional life. 

I have been to a therapist reluctantly at 22 after the death of a close relative on the request of my uncle , and found the experience cathartic and productive. 

I find a combination of meditation and therapy useful for getting rid of mental ailments, and modern sages have also recommended the same.

Edited June 27 by Ajay0

[bebotalk]

21 minutes ago, Ajay0 said:

I think you need to meet a therapist to get rid of conditioned prejudices and biases as well as inner psychological insecurities and complexes that may be damaging your social and professional life. 

I have been to a therapist reluctantly at 22 after the death of a close relative on the request of my uncle , and found the experience cathartic and productive. 

I find a combination of meditation and therapy useful for getting rid of mental ailments, and modern sages have also recommended the same.

what biases? all humans hold biases. many humans hold prejudices. then therapists are cowards since they arbitrarily select whom to condemn for prejudices. that further proves that therapists are trash. 

[Ajay0]

28 minutes ago, bebotalk said:

what biases? all humans hold biases.

If you are stating that all humans hold biases, that would mean an assertion that you yourself hold biases, which is an admission of faulty judgement in yourself. 

Since you have certified yourself as having poor judgement, it means that your conclusions regarding therapists are not valid and subject to correction. 

[bebotalk]

So humans don't have biases? really? OK. is this an attempt to gaslight, or what?

yes, therapists are human. but this is the reason why professions often have codes of conduct, to limit the negative effects of biases. it's why police are often trained to not arbitrarily beat people of a race, religion, region, sex, gender, etc. they dislike. I don't see the logical connection here.  Moreover, biases or bigotries are not a mental illness. It's nowhere in the DSM and to assume people have no such thing is either limited or displaying disingenuousness. 

Edited June 27 by bebotalk

[Dabidoe]

It's sad that people try to outsource their parental duties of guidance, teaching behavioral control and morals to therapists. 

Therapsy is an ideology, albeit a helpful one. So they are moralizing and indoctrinating you, ideally for your benefit. That said, a shitty therapist does more harm than good.

[bebotalk]

4 hours ago, Dabidoe said:

It's sad that people try to outsource their parental duties of guidance, teaching behavioral control and morals to therapists. 

Therapsy is an ideology, albeit a helpful one. So they are moralizing and indoctrinating you, ideally for your benefit. That said, a shitty therapist does more harm than good.

I dont see the connection here. 

[Ajay0]

12 hours ago, bebotalk said:

So humans don't have biases? really? OK. is this an attempt to gaslight, or what?

You can generalize for yourself, but it is not correct to generalize on the part of other human beings, especially enlightened one's who are entrenched in the oneness of all life and who do not have a dualistic perspective.

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yes, therapists are human. but this is the reason why professions often have codes of conduct, to limit the negative effects of biases. it's why police are often trained to not arbitrarily beat people of a race, religion, region, sex, gender, etc. they dislike. 

 

So professional therapists adhere to a code of conduct to limit their biases and be objective in their analysis.

You may be unfortunate enough to have dealt with some unprofessional ones just as there are unprofessional policemen and engineers.  But that does not mean you can generalize all therapists as having an agenda. That would be an unsubstantiated bias on your part.

[Dabidoe]

17 hours ago, bebotalk said:

I dont see the connection here. 

People replace priests with therapists in the modern era. Both indoctrinate, spread ideology - for different causes etc. but same result in the end.

Edited June 28 by Dabidoe

[bebotalk]

12 hours ago, Dabidoe said:

People replace priests with therapists in the modern era. Both indoctrinate, spread ideology - for different causes etc. but same result in the end.

therapists are there to cure illness. priests are not. i don't see the connection. find somebody else to gaslight.

I don't really know what point you're attempting to make, but it doesn't follow from mine, and is just some odd supposition or distortion of what I was referring. 

Edited June 29 by bebotalk

[Yimpa]

1 hour ago, bebotalk said:

therapists are there to cure illness

Therapists treat mental illnesses; not cure them.

[bebotalk]

1 hour ago, Yimpa said:

Therapists treat mental illnesses; not cure them.

yes, they can be cured. it depends on the symptoms, the client's co-operativeness, and other factors.

though pretty women like you who "plot" are amusing. i don't care for your selectiveness, nor do i need to. for somebody who claims to have expert social skills, you don't even get that people can respond to you. 

[bebotalk]

On 27/06/2024 at 7:08 AM, Ajay0 said:

If you are stating that all humans hold biases, that would mean an assertion that you yourself hold biases, which is an admission of faulty judgement in yourself. 

Since you have certified yourself as having poor judgement, it means that your conclusions regarding therapists are not valid and subject to correction. 

Biases are natural. humans don't think like computers. 

Maybe you should tell all the racist, sexists, homophobes, Islamophobes, etc. about this. if not, then you're a coward.