I see Intelligence but not Love

[bambi]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You are treating what I said as knowledge or conceptual understanding, but it goes way beyond that.

You do not yet really understand what metaphysical love is. It is not about kindness towards others.

Ralston doesn't even understand what I said.

I am not saying I am the only one who undestands it. But if you think you understand it, I would caution you to think twice.

If you really understood it you wouldn't say it was easy. And you would appreciate how few people understand it.

 

"Adolf Hitler was an evil man, yet he wrote a poem for his mother that is deeply moving. Read the poem and you glimpse a young boy's tender love for his mother. Even though that boy grew into a man who committed one of history's worst atrocities, he still felt love. His poem went:

When your mother has grown older, 
When her dear, faithful eyes
no longer see life as they once did,
When her feet, grown tired,
No longer want to carry her as she walks –
Then lend her your arm in support,
Escort her with happy pleasure.
The hour will come when, weeping, you
Must accompany her on her final walk.
And if she asks you something,
Then give her an answer.
And if she asks again, then speak!
And if she asks yet again, respond to her,
Not impatiently, but with gentle calm.
And if she cannot understand you properly
Explain all to her happily.
The hour will come, the bitter hour,
When her mouth asks for nothing more.

Hitler teaches us that even within the cruelest of people, there is still love."

This is from Ajahn Bram a buddhist monk

 

No of course what you speak of is hard to embody, not hard to understand however. Conciousness is love, so at some level its all love. It can be grasped directly on psychedelics when the egos wants and desires are absent though

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, bambi said:

 

"Adolf Hitler was an evil man, yet he wrote a poem for his mother that is deeply moving. Read the poem and you glimpse a young boy's tender love for his mother. Even though that boy grew into a man who committed one of history's worst atrocities, he still felt love. His poem went:

When your mother has grown older, 
When her dear, faithful eyes
no longer see life as they once did,
When her feet, grown tired,
No longer want to carry her as she walks –
Then lend her your arm in support,
Escort her with happy pleasure.
The hour will come when, weeping, you
Must accompany her on her final walk.
And if she asks you something,
Then give her an answer.
And if she asks again, then speak!
And if she asks yet again, respond to her,
Not impatiently, but with gentle calm.
And if she cannot understand you properly
Explain all to her happily.
The hour will come, the bitter hour,
When her mouth asks for nothing more.

Hitler teaches us that even within the cruelest of people, there is still love."

This is from Ajahn Bram a buddhist monk

No!

That is NOT what I am talking about.

Seeing Hitler's humaniry is NOT any kind of understanding of metaphysical love.

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No of course what you speak of is hard to embody, not hard to understand however.

No!

What I said has nothing to do with embodiment. You really just don't understand it. Nevermind embodiment. You cannot embody something you don't even understand.

Hearing me say it is not you understanding it.

Sorry, but this point is crucial to make. I don't mean to pick on you.

Edited June 9 by Leo Gura

[bambi]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No!

That is NOT what I am talking about.

Seeing Hitler's humaniry is NOT any kind of understanding of metaphysical love.

No!

What I said has nothing to do with embodiment. You really just don't understand it. Nevermind embodiment. You cannot embody something you don't even understand.

Hearing me say it is not you understanding it.

What is it that you think is so hard to understand?

Everything is made out of conciousness, conciousness is love, therefore everything is love. Humans cannot see this as we have a bunch of limatations, biases and prefernces of how this love should be, or how reality should be, to suit our selfish agendas. This selfish agendas is what is negating love. Further the ego is the main mechanism of this selfish agenda, the ego is the real negation of love. All of the things we call evil are basically by products of people who are far removed from the love whcih they are, theyre egos and pains and selfishness negate this love deeply, stopping them from seeing or acting out of the love they are. Other humans then also out their own biases and agendas then criticise and condenm these other people, which furhter removes them from love

From Gods perspective, or conciousness perspective, or the absolute perspective, there is only love.

 

Can you please tell me what im not grasping here

[bambi]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

No!

That is NOT what I am talking about.

Seeing Hitler's humaniry is NOT any kind of understanding of metaphysical love.

No!

What I said has nothing to do with embodiment. You really just don't understand it. Nevermind embodiment. You cannot embody something you don't even understand.

Hearing me say it is not you understanding it.

I wasnt saying Hitler was directly talking about the same thing, but his intimating towards it, or simply hes  abuddhist talking about hitler and love to some degre

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, bambi said:

Can you please tell me what im not grasping here

What you're not grasping is INFINITE LOVE!

When you look at a toilet and you know it is LOVE.

[bambi]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

What you're not grasping is INFINITE LOVE!

When you look at a toilet and you know it is LOVE.

Sure when I am on pyschedelics or when I reach my enlightenment it might be permenant

I literally said that above, everyting is made out of Love lol! the whole game, the map, the characters the terrain is powered by an infinite engine of Love, as One! What is hard about this?????

Edited June 9 by bambi

[Scholar]

58 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Except there still is a difference, otherwise he wouldn't wear his wig.

What's wrong with his wig? 

 

[Davino]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

When you look at a toilet and you know it is LOVE.

Few people have experienced the profoundity of peeing.

[Davino]

11 minutes ago, Scholar said:

What's wrong with his wig? 

Leo, it would look good on you!

[Scholar]

Just now, Davino said:

Leo, it would look good on you!

omfg we need a Leo wig.

[Yimpa]

7 minutes ago, Scholar said:

omfg we need a Leo wig.

[Loveeee]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What humans feel as love stems from a connection or union of identity with a finite thing, and the appreciation of its existence and inherent beauty.

Contemplate what human love actually means. What is happening when you love any aspect of reality? Really examine it!

I didn't understand the first part and was about to ask if love wasn't just appreciation, but it's true that identity is key, the more you love something the more it becomes part of you, of your identity

Now I get it

 

[Leo Gura]

@Loveeee When you appreciate a thing you are in a sense connecting with it. And connection of any two parts of reality into one is metaphysically what Love is. Love is the condition of unity. This unity is not physical, it is happening within Consciousness. Consciousness is recognizing its own nature as Unity.

God is Infinite Unity.

If your consciousness united with all parts of itself you would become Infinite Love and that would be the answer to all your stupid questions.

Edited June 9 by Leo Gura

[Loveeee]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Loveeee When you appreciate a thing you are in a sense connecting with it. And connection of any two parts of reality into one is metaphysically what Love is. Love is the condition of unity. This unity is not physical, it is happening within Consciousness. Consciousness is recognizing its own nature as Unity.

God is Infinite Unity.

If your consciousness united with all parts of itself you would become Infinite Love and that would be the answer to all your stupid questions.

 

[Loveeee]

@Leo Gura Maybe my real question is, where is Love when you are not loving ?

Edit : wait, love is by-product of consciousness and in that sense Consciousness itself is Love, holy fuck

Edited June 10 by Loveeee

[Loveeee]

No I really get it now 

Few months ago in a lucid dream I got some nasty stuff on my hand but wasn't disgusted because it was all myself, on the contrary I embraced it, along with everything else, and felt home

That's what was meant here : 

On 5/14/2024 at 0:58 AM, Leo Gura said:

Metaphysical oneness. The unity of all things. The imaginary nature of all differences.

If all differences are imaginary, that means everything is ultimately One. This metaphysical connection between all things IS Love proper. And human emotions of love are just a reflection of that Love.

 

[Loveeee]

Love is both the process of unity and unity itself which is already one 

Imma rewatch this episode and let it all sink in 

 

 

[universe]

@bambi The original german poem "habe geduld" (have patience) seems to be from Georg Runsky NOT from Adolf Hitler.

[Breakingthewall]

14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

What you're not grasping is INFINITE LOVE!

When you look at a toilet and you know it is LOVE.

The difficult thing is to see that Gilles de Rais is love, when his hobby was to torture children in the most horrible ways, in front of other children who were going to be tortured later. It seems that he chose children because their level of suffering and terror could reach levels higher than that of an adult, he tortured hundreds just for fun. Seeing Gilles skinning alive some children before the dinner and seeing infinite love, that's the challenge.

[nistake]

23 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Because there is no metaphysical difference between a taco dinner, your children, or Hitler.

That escalated quickly.