Leo's deleted video on solipsism

[Javfly33]

29 minutes ago, Davino said:

What is the difference between real creation and false creation?

One is You, the other is imagination and identity (not you). 

[Breakingthewall]

2 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Jesus

If I get myself a hyperbolic time chamber I think I can spend a thousand years to figure it out

then you will not have achieved anything either, because a thousand years compared to infinite years are zero. That means illusion. that you can have all the experiences you can, be a multidimensional entity that encompasses trillions of multiverses and that controls every elemental particle of all of them with your mind, which compared to infinity will be exactly zero.

All form is illusion, only the infinite is real. but on the other hand, everything is real in essence, since its essence is infinity, but a universe is just as illusion in form and as real in essence as a proton.

[Psychedelic seeker]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

But beyond my humanness I am what you are: INFINITY.

This sentence implies two distinct experiencers merged in Infinity. The statement "I and you are Infinity" negates solipsism, because solipsism states that only I exist and you don't exist, so if you don't exist, you cannot be Infinity - only I can be Infinity and you cannot, because, as solipsism states, you don't exist, so sth cannot be Infinity, if there isn't such thing.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Psychedelic seeker said:

This sentence implies two distinct experiencers merged in Infinity. The statement "I and you are Infinity" negates solipsism, because solipsism states that only I exist and you don't exist, so if you don't exist, you cannot be Infinity - only I can be Infinity and you cannot, because, as solipsism states, you don't exist, so sth cannot be Infinity, if there isn't such thing.

The only thing it implies is that you are dreaming and don't wish to wake up.

Edited June 9 by Leo Gura

[Psychedelic seeker]

Ketamine or 5-MeO-DMT results in ego death and solipsism. Why can't there be some substance which would result in ego life and proving that others exist through some radically different mental state which shows the existence of all others who are beyond me? Why 5-MeO should be right and not this new substance: anti-5-MeO-DMT?

Edited June 9 by Psychedelic seeker

[Yimpa]

5 minutes ago, Psychedelic seeker said:

Ketamine or 5-MeO-DMT results in ego death and solipsism. Why can't there be some substance which would result in ego life and proving that others exist through some radically different mental state which shows the existence of all others who are beyond me?

YOU are the substance.

Ta-Daa!

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Psychedelic seeker said:

Ketamine or 5-MeO-DMT results in ego death and solipsism. Why can't there be some substance which would result in ego life and proving that others exist through some radically different mental state which shows the existence of all others who are beyond me?

That's called meth.

[Psychedelic seeker]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's called meth.

I don't think that meth 100% proves that other people exist 😆

Edited June 9 by Psychedelic seeker

[Psychedelic seeker]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's called meth.

Why 5-MeO should be right and not this new substance: anti-5-MeO-DMT?

[tuku747]

Solipsism is a thought... It's a voice asserting I'm alone, and driving itself mad for the hell of it. But when you get bored with that you'll find the truth beyond words.

 Solipsists be like:

 

Edited June 9 by tuku747

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Psychedelic seeker said:

Why 5-MeO should be right and not this new substance: anti-5-MeO-DMT?

It's all Consciousness. The rightness of 5-MeO is not in its content but in its ability to take you meta.

Edited June 9 by Leo Gura

[Davino]

1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

Quote

What is the difference between real creation and false creation?

One is You, the other is imagination and identity (not you). 

If it were so, what is the point of such distinction?

I find it a useless dicothomy.

For me it's all as real as it gets

[Davino]

38 minutes ago, tuku747 said:

 Solipsists be like:

 

Exactly!

[MoonLanding]

@Leo Gura Great work Leo! Confirm this to be true: I awaken to the fact that "what ever not in my direct experience is the void= solipsism

To the point I am conscious of hallucinating everything I need as I go by my daily business and destroys them the moment I move away or look away! It is painful to be in that state when I realize that about family members🤔I think Donald Hoffman's work confirms solipsism 

Fun fact, the earth changes everytime, sometimes it's flat, when I close my eyes it disappears and lives only as a story in my consciousness as God.

 

@Leo Gura Question about "The other" :  At what point in time did I give away my authority after coming to existence? Can I get it back and hoi? Why does the other seems to be making decisions on my behalf that which directly affects me?  and seems harmful and sometimes outrightly enslaving...? e.g The government, federal reserve, Banks, corporations, slave labor, wage theft, and sometime spiritual phenomenal such as nightmares, sicknesses, accidents, that seems to suggests being directly against my progress..., since i have decided to keep living and prosper in this dream instead of being all alone up there as God? Should I treat "the other"as an ally or ego foe in this dream? Will reality finally evolve to perfection, perfect dream before I die? And when I die, will I start something new, or continue from where I stopped...?

As God in this dream; do I have have the ability to change the other of things such as the structure and system of survival itself that seems built into the fabric of reality itself?

Could you say something about old age and death since aging to me seems like the smoking gun that screams you are going to die one day the unknown is massively still there...

Or does God just enjoys game of infinite rollercoasters🎢 rides...?

@Leo Gura I have a lot to ask, Wondering how much for zoom meeting with you! I missed the YouTube teachings. 

Thanks for reply.

 

Edited June 9 by MoonLanding

[Psychedelic seeker]

43 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

It's all Consciousness. The rightness of 5-MeO is not in its content but in its ability to take you meta.

Ofc, just a word-game. Ofc I meant ability. Maybe anti-5-MeO has an ability to show the truth but 5-MeO doesn't and it just gives a feeling of sth being true but not the truth itself. Maybe 5-MeO gives another maya scam and anti-5-MeO gives an Ultimate Truth.  Why can't there be two substances with completely opposite effects: one of them gives a feeling of being certain that sth is true, but, in spite of it, it is really false and the other gives a feeling of being certain about Ultimate Truth. How to distinguish one from another?

Edited June 9 by Psychedelic seeker

[bambi]

20 minutes ago, Psychedelic seeker said:

Ofc, just a word-game. Ofc I meant ability. Maybe anti-5-MeO has an ability to show the truth but 5-MeO doesn't and it just gives a feeling of sth being true but not the truth itself. Maybe 5-MeO gives another maya scam and anti-5-MeO gives an Ultimate Truth.  Why can't there be two substances with completely opposite effects: one of them gives a feeling of being certain that sth is true, but, in spite of it, it is really false and the other gives a feeling of being certain about Ultimate Truth. How to distinguish one from another?

anti-psychotic medication usually negates pscyhedelic usage, but dopimnergic drugs to on top of this would probably be as inverse as you can go

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

 

@Leo Gura Question about "The other" :  At what point in time did I give away my authority after coming to existence? Can I get it back and hoi? Why does the other seems to be making decisions on my behalf that which directly affects me?  and seems harmful and sometimes outrightly enslaving...? e.g The government, federal reserve, Banks, corporations, slave labor, wage theft, and sometime spiritual phenomenal such as nightmares, sicknesses, accidents, that seems to suggests being directly against my progress...,

Well, you are in a dream where you dream a society. This society is evil, it has always been evil, but your whole life depends on it. You were born from evil-doers and you are entangled with the evil-doing of your imagined society.

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

Should I treat "the other"as an ally or ego foe in this dream?

Just remember that everyone is lost in survival, just like you.

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

Will reality finally evolve to perfection, perfect dream before I die?

Certainly not. It fact it will probably devolve in many ways.

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

And when I die, will I start something new, or continue from where I stopped...?

Hard to say.

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

As God in this dream; do I have have the ability to change the other of things such as the structure and system of survival itself that seems built into the fabric of reality itself?

You can change some things if you really apply yourself.

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

Could you say something about old age and death since aging to me seems like the smoking gun that screams you are going to die one day the unknown is massively still there...

Getting old sucks and then you die a miserable death.

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

Or does God just enjoys game of infinite rollercoasters🎢 rides...?

Sure, of course.

20 minutes ago, MoonLanding said:

@Leo Gura I have a lot to ask, Wondering how much for zoom meeting with you! I missed the YouTube teachings. 

I don't know cause I have never been asked.

I notice you have a lot of questios which you expect some easy pat answers to, when the right thing is to do the work to have your own insights. My verbal answer do not give you genuine understanding. You have to earn the answers through years of contemplation and experience. I can't just give them to you like a basket of apples.

13 minutes ago, Psychedelic seeker said:

Ofc, just a word-game. Ofc I meant ability. Maybe anti-5-MeO has an ability to show the truth but 5-MeO doesn't and it just gives a feeling of sth being true but not the truth itself. Maybe 5-MeO gives another maya scam and anti-5-MeO gives an Ultimate Truth.  Why can't there be two substances with completely opposite effects: one of them gives a feeling of being certain that sth is true, but, in spite of it, it is really false and the other gives a feeling of being certain about Ultimate Truth. How to distinguish one from another?

When you realize Truth it is self-validating and completely obvious. That's what Awakening is and it cannot be wrong. You could misunderstand it though or build a fantasy around it, but that's another matter.

Anti-5-MeO is what you've been puffing your whole life.

[AtmanIsBrahman]

@Leo Gura isn't solipsism and oneness of reality really just the same thing. Isn't this arguing on the forum just about definitons, different ways of attempting to express absolute truth using language (which can't be done)?

[AtmanIsBrahman]

How do you know "others" have not attained the same realization of solipsism as you but just frame it differently?

[Leo Gura]

What really matters is not what you call it but how deeply conscious are you of how your construct the dream you are in.