Why Is Being Lost In Thoughts Easier?

[Naviy]

Why is it easier to be in "sleeping" state, rather than being super mindful? It seems that we naturally "fall asleep" into thoughts or experiences, while a lot of effort is required to be mindful.

[Rufus]

Within my own experiance you cannot stop the mind from thinking as long as your awareness is pointed there.Think of awareness like a mouse cursor, but our problem that by default it's snapped hard at the mind because we are so attached and identified with the mind, if your awareness moves to somewhere on the skin, an illusion will happen that area will start itching even if there is no physical change happening in that area in your skin. you can move your awareness to any aspect in your body and in different scales and advanced deeper dimensions.
Awareness can be trained through meditation and being present to the moment.
That's why for mediators it's recommended to focus your awareness on your breath, and how your lungs move when you breath, some like to focus their awareness on a candle fire, a view, an object or constant beats or frequencies, it's up to you to find your favorite method, that's one way to train yourself to become mindful.

Edited February 14, 2016 by Rufus

[Ludwig]

It's not easier. It just seems so from most peoples perspectives due to the conditioning all around. It actually takes a lot of work to keep the false story, the sleeping state going. That's where 99% of our energies go into - feeding the story of ourself. 

In Yoga or Hinduism they speek of the four episodes, Yugas, that determine the conscious state of reality. Depending on the Yuga, humans and all other existence are more or less away from truth (more or less asleep). That's the game. You can check Sadhguru or Yoganadas Gurus on these things if you want to learn more. 

[jjer94]

What do you think is easier: being fast asleep in a nice, warm bed or having to strip the bedsheets and get out of bed?

It's easier to stay asleep because it's familiar, it's warm, it's cozy, and in your dreams there is still hope for a better tomorrow. Even if you already wet the bed and smell like crap, that's not nearly as painful as getting out of bed altogether and having to face the light of day. 

[Avi]

1 minute ago, jjer94 said:

What do you think is easier: being fast asleep in a nice, warm bed or having to strip the bedsheets and get out of bed?

It's easier to stay asleep because it's familiar, it's warm, it's cozy, and in your dreams there is still hope for a better tomorrow. Even if you already wet the bed and smell like crap, that's not nearly as painful as getting out of bed altogether and having to face the light of day. 

Great point. I would like to add that our culture has a lot to do with it. All the social conditioning, belief systems, conclusions, judgments, and assumptions we make is all mental activity that has been collected throughout our lives. Once we start to explore that all of these are concepts that we've made up, we can start to slowly peel away from everything to experience being. 

Side note: We also made up language so all of what you're reading right now isn't real and has been socially construed as well.  

[Leo Gura]

Fundamentally, the body's prime concern is self-survival. So it naturally tends to occupy itself with this aim to the exclusion of truth and reality. And so it is lost in thoughts about the self.

Also our culture is designed to keep you asleep. As explained in this video:

http://www.actualized.org/articles/30-ways-society-fucks-you-in-the-ass

[Lady Peacock]

Great topic and nice to hear people having such though provoking discussions. 

Very interesting point about dreaming. After practicing prayer and meditation ( which is another form of prayer) I now know that no situation has any instrinsic truth within itself.

I believe that when our third voice/ higher self/ Christ consciousness/ Holy Spirit, uses a situation to speak to us, the message we receive is real and true. 

If we don't pray ahead of time or do meditation, then we will never experience anything real in our whole life because we never open up the door for this higher level of communication to enter in to our situations. 

Assumptions, opinions, judgements, decisions, conclusions ......are all  part of the dream. 

Ephesians 5:14 "awake you, the one sleeping and rise up out from the dead and Christ wil shine on you"

[WelcometoReality]

On 2/14/2016 at 5:13 PM, Naviy said:

Why is it easier to be in "sleeping" state, rather than being super mindful? It seems that we naturally "fall asleep" into thoughts or experiences, while a lot of effort is required to be mindful.

Mindfulness is a technique that is learned. If you compare it to say, learning how to drive a car the first state is being totally unaware of how bad you are at driving a car (never new you were so focused on thoughts). When you start to learn to drive you become aware of how bad you are at driving (you notice how much of you life is revolving around thoughts). 

 After a while you've learned to drive but you need to focus on everything you do when you drive, shifting gears, gas and break etc (you are more focused on reality, but you still need to focus on the mindfulness technique). After doing it a hundred times over you've learned to drive without any effort (Being in the present moment now has become the natural state).