Daniel Schmachtenberger: "A Vision for Betterment" | The Great Simplification 126

[CARDOZZO]

+1 full of wisdom

 

[zurew]

Nice, thanks for sharing.

It has been a while since the last  'the great simplification' episode with Daniel.

It seems that he is comfortable with flexing his bookshelves now.

Edited June 5 by zurew

[Danioover9000]

@CARDOZZO

8 hours ago, CARDOZZO said:

+1 full of wisdom

 

    Oh dear GOD! Why did he grow his beard out?!🤣

   Anyways thanks for the share car guy, I'll check out the 3 plus hour episode. I hope he's not gonna go the anti optimism points and naive techno optimism this and that. I like his other takes but as an argument against optimism it's a bit weak IMO.

[Danioover9000]

@zurew

8 hours ago, zurew said:

Nice, thanks for sharing.

It has been a while since the last  'the great simplification' episode with Daniel.

It seems that he is comfortable with flexing his bookshelves now.

   To be fair, @Leo Gura did start this trend a while back.

[Danioover9000]

   Yes I am right again, Daniel Schmachtenberger on that niave techno optimism. I personally don't mind, but optimism IMO for individuals is very important when life gets hard, dark, and depressing. Hope, optimism, self belief, and faith can work a long way into recovering from darkness. Optimism on the collective level is debatable, but what isn't IMO is collective naive realism versus collective naive optimism, naive optimism IMO is much better than naive hardcore realism, pessimism, cynicism, and so forth.

[Juan]

36 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

   Yes I am right again

I’m gonna quote someone that responded you from another thread:

“You seem like an immature kid with this "take the L I checkmated you" BS.”

Edited June 6 by Juan

[Danioover9000]

@Juan

34 minutes ago, Juan said:

I’m gonna quote someone that responded you from another thread:

“You seem like an immature kid with this "take the L I checkmated you" BS.”

    I thought @Leo Gura, @Carl-Richard and @OBEler reminded you to leave me alone and stop instigating drama??? And no I won't respond and derail this thread.

[Juan]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

   I thought @Leo Gura, @Carl-Richard and @OBEler reminded you to leave me alone and stop instigating drama??? And no I won't respond and derail this thread.

Ok, fair enough then, sorry. 

[mmKay]

Does Daniel have a main channel? Where is most of his content?

[Nemra]

@mmKay

The Consilience Project

Edited June 12 by Nemra

[CARDOZZO]

@mmKay He's all over the place  

Search for his name and filter for last month.

[Danioover9000]

@CARDOZZO

On 2024-06-05 at 1:45 PM, CARDOZZO said:

+1 full of wisdom

 

   I highly disagree it's a plus 1 for wisdom when:

1. He made points against Christiandom. Here's a question: would you rather it be Christians or the caliphate Islam that were also spreading? Also, did you know that GB were the nly country that were anti slavery?

2. Cartoonish depictions of Genghis Khan's Mongolia, Alexander the great's empire and the Roman empire.

3. Daniel Schmachtenberger is wrong about sociopathy, what he described is psychopathy, not sociopathy.

4. There are good reasons why the winners are the winners today. I hate Schmachtenberger's beta male apologia for losers that, honestly, some deserve to lose. For example those that worshipped Moloch, who Schmachtenberger loves to quote for his meta crisis and arms race and shit, he forgets to include the historical context that Moloch is the name of the deity in the region of Gehenna that the tribe there loved to sacrifice children, by burning them alive. Sorry but choose a freaking better name than some god that loves sniffing the burnt remains of children thank you very much!

5. Fantasy of making Game B a reality. Well, in reality realistically it's nearly impossible to expect everyone to abandon Game A for game B. Daniel underestimates the power of selfishness and the grand design GOD has for selfishness. Even the true self, the Atman, is fundamental of selfishness!.

6. Again, some losers deserve to die out, as per nature and natural selection. For example the Aztec empire, yes EMPIRE not TRIBE! They lost to the Spanish there for good reason: because the neighboring tribes were fed up with their warriors and some of their women/children getting live sacrificed via ripping their still beating hearts! They formed a coalition, which the Spanish then were diplomatic enough to do, and do away with the Aztecs.

7. Again, I feel like he's hating on Christians more so than normal. I hope he realizes that areas were Christians were a minority were not treated kindly.

8. Thinking that merely hygiene and plumbing is enough to defeat the mighty Covid-19 pandemic! Yes folks, don't get vaccinated, don't wear masks, yes Schmachtenberger, that's 10 points of silliness for the anti vaxxers! Cleanliness defeats germs and viruses guys! Wish you could tell the CCP and communist China that, a bunch of 'dirty' wet market advocating 'peoples'. Never knew how fragile Covid really was huh?! That denial is soooooo DDDEEEEEEPPPPPP!

9. Following that Covid-19 trite, we settle on dental issues by eating grains! So in his wisdom, we all should eat meats only then? Organ meats too? 

On 2024-06-12 at 9:40 PM, CARDOZZO said:

@mmKay He's all over the place  

Search for his name and filter for last month.

 

Edited June 20 by Danioover9000

[Danioover9000]

   Also, point 10 is Daniel Schmachtenberger is too complicated, too nuanced for the majority of the population. So complicated that what I fear has happened in YT and even HERE! That we're just blindly believing in what he says just because it's too complicated to unpack, so we just believe what he's saying. I saw a HUGE LACK of criticism in Daniel Schmachtenberger's consilience project YT channel, and in Nate Hagen's Channel. It's like it's filled with a bunch of yes men and hippies just nodding along.... 

[Danioover9000]

11. Daniel Schmachtenberger's take on Eric Fromm's quote, a person who's a psychologist and philosopher, and his take on optimism is just SO WRONG! And of course AS IT SHOULD BE WRONG! Eric Fromm just sounds like to me another pessimist naive realist with naive takes on the power of optimism, faith, and hopeful outlook. Even now there's some scientific studies that show that having a more optimistic outlook in life is better overall for your own health, having a positive outlook is much better for even mental health! WTF is this demonization and downplaying of optimism?! So disappointed about his takes on optimism!

[CARDOZZO]

11 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

Daniel Schmachtenberger

Don't judge him, be better and start a new movement.

Never judge or criticize, build a new path.

[CARDOZZO]

I see a lot of humans just criticizing and judging products, startups, influential people.

Go there and build something better.

 

[Danioover9000]

@CARDOZZO

55 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

Don't judge him, be better and start a new movement.

Never judge or criticize, build a new path.

   Don't judge him, or don't use critical thinking? How can I be better and start a new movement when I cannot make healthy critique first? Are you saying that I cannot argue for a better understanding?

   Same again, how can you ever build a new path without contemplating, being critical thinking or not even willing to debate and hash out the old from the new? That's like asking me to make a bridge with one arm, while neglecting my other arm that's also important, the other arm of critical thinking?

   For example, I cannot just blindly believe what Schmachtenberger says, when most of his comments are a bunch of yes men/women, and most don't even give reasonable pushback to ANYONE of his points, just one??? Like for example in 1 point he made in I think the study of conquerors he insinuated the evils of Christendom. I'm like ok, but what's the alternative then? Caliphate Islam? Arabic slavery? I get it that Daniel's got some bias for indigenous peoples, and maybe anti colonialist vibes, but to downplay European colonialism, especially GB when GB was the only anti slavery empire there ever was, meanwhile the Arabas and caliphate Islam was doing their slave trade of Africa for far longer, and were castrating the black slaves...I'm sorry, but you cannot proclaim you're a freaking systems thinker without at least balancing or briefly touching on not just Genghis Khan's Mongolia or Alexander's Macedonia, or Roman Empire, and jumping to many other context fast forwarded into the modern Era, then back again, sneak diss Christianity and the English language whilst ignoring it's close competitor empire and religion then, then expect ME and few peoples with a lot of critical thinking to put up with selection bias and cherry picking like that???!!! Makes me want to actual diss track on him for such a freaking slight!

   BTW, the Aztecs were not a tribal peoples, they were an EMPIRE, and an empire that practiced human live sacrifice, well it's not that hard to imagine what the Spanish then were thinking about.

   And what's his gripe with optimism? Did Optimism netorare'd him or something? Like does he not realize how important optimism really is for surviving the dark night of the souls????

   Several other points in that talk that miffed me, but Imma chill, cool down. Like hell you just can't proclaim you some galactic levels systems thinker, like yuo was a Martian or Venutian or Jupitarien yet expect to sound like an earthling making sense. The math ain't mathin if ya don't give concrete enough grounded examples...

Edited June 20 by Danioover9000

[Danioover9000]

@CARDOZZO

54 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

I see a lot of humans just criticizing and judging products, startups, influential people.

Go there and build something better.

 

   Are you still mad about my diss?😄

[CARDOZZO]

1 hour ago, Danioover9000 said:

@CARDOZZO

   Are you still mad about my diss?😄

No, it was good rap 😉😂

[Rafael Thundercat]

On 20/06/2024 at 11:43 AM, Danioover9000 said:

I saw a HUGE LACK of criticism in Daniel Schmachtenberger's consilience project YT channel, and in Nate Hagen's Channel. It's like it's filled with a bunch of yes men and hippies just nodding along.... 

Maybe you have some point in it. Oversimplification can be a trap but Overcomplexisation too