Can we define an awakening once and for all

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On 2024-06-05 at 5:36 PM, koops said:

Yes, but even people talking form experience.

Imagine Leo, Ralston, Spira, Tolle, and Shinzen talking about it.

They would still disagree.

 

 

Maybe there is different kinds of awakenings too. So could explain some disagreements.

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23 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

Can it be defined? I recently began thinking that it is not possible to put it into concepts and grasp it with this mind. This mind is too limited to understand something so grand and multidimensional.  
 

and even all that I wrote above might be wrong. I have no clue wtf is hapenning. 

Depends on if there’s different kinds of awakening , maybe the non dual stuff can’t be explained but even some non dual “teachers” can kind of describe the drop in self. 

 

im not saying theres one strict definition, as i said concepts don’t grasp at anything anyways but one can still form an conceptual model in some way

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23 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

But non-duality awakening was only one example (I edited the post now to make it a little more clear). The general definition of awakening (or spiritual transformation) still fits I think. 

Yea. There’s maybe different kinds of awakenings. Different levels, or not idk 

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21 hours ago, enchanted said:

So what's the verdict? Can we agree on a definition finally?

No but it’s fine

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15 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

Depends on what you're talking about. Generally, it is simply becoming conscious directly of the nature of an absolute aspect of existence. Either that, or you could hold it as a relative process, such as having an insight into a dynamic, principle, or condition -- "awakening" to the reality or origin of something in a way that is authentic and based on experience.

That was nicely written. It’s  a broad word yea

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@Sugarcoat Asking the wrong question?

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3 minutes ago, creativepursuit said:

@Sugarcoat Asking the wrong question?

You think ?