Experience without an experiencer?

[Bruins8000]

Does all apparent experience/apparent somethingness require an apparent experiencer/perceiver? Looking at it this way it seems Infinity is very binary. Only two options: 1.) no apparent experiencer and nothingness like deep sleep or 2.) an apparent experiencer and somethingness. Is THIS really that black and white? These are the only two ways of reality?

[Yimpa]

No, reality is more than binary.

[Atb210201]

@Bruins8000 Infinity is definitely not like deep sleep and non being

It's being infinite

Not non being

Definitely deep sleep is not it

[Davino]

You cannot separate experience and experiencer.

Buddhist like to say: There's just Experience and no experiencer. Which is true.

Advaitist  like to say: There's just The Experiencer. Which is also true.

If you have an absolute experience, you can subjectify it or objectify, what you gravitate towards in articulation is a bias.

3 hours ago, Bruins8000 said:

1.) no apparent experiencer and nothingness like deep sleep or 2.) an apparent experiencer and somethingness.

Both are fantasies.

1. You have never ever experienced deep sleep.

Deep sleep is like santa Claus.

2. Isn't the experiencer just more experience?

 

3. Is experience possible without consciousness?

How does consciousness and experience intercorrelate?

Edited June 1 by Davino