Breaking News: Donald J. Trump has been found guilty in hush money trial

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Do these charges he’s been convicted of actually warrant a prison sentence? The sentencing is not until July 11, but if he appeals the charges, but is sentenced to prison on July 11, will he still go to jail?

[BlueOak]

6 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Do these charges he’s been convicted of actually warrant a prison sentence? The sentencing is not until July 11, but if he appeals the charges, but is sentenced to prison on July 11, will he still go to jail?

Yes. 34 Felonies will give you jail time.

But he won't go to jail no because America is becoming an authoritarian state, and its leaders are elevated to a status beyond the common man.

The clever middle ground would be house arrest, but I would wager people won't pick that either.

Edited June 1, 2024 by BlueOak

[Danioover9000]

@BlueOak

7 hours ago, BlueOak said:

@Gennadiy1981
It's possible to be convicted on all counts. I've been on three juries. One where all were held, one where some of the charges were held, and one where we threw it out.

From what I've seen, Trump's lawyers are garbage at law; he keeps screwing over the good ones.

Oh, and he can't keep his mouth shut for more than 5 minutes, meaning he constantly incriminates himself.

   Right, and let's say he is found guilty and charged. My question is is that legally not prevent Trump from running?

[Alex M]

2 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Do these charges he’s been convicted of actually warrant a prison sentence? The sentencing is not until July 11, but if he appeals the charges, but is sentenced to prison on July 11, will he still go to jail?

Yes he ‘could’. Each charge carries a maximum sentence of four years. The judge may choose a lesser punishment like a fine, probation or supervision, including Trump’s age, the fact that he’s a first-time felon - and even perhaps the fact that he’s a former president. You've also got the logistical nightmare of secret service detail that need to keep Trump safe should he go to prison. I doubt very much he will serve time.

 

[Alex M]

23 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@BlueOak

   Right, and let's say he is found guilty and charged. My question is is that legally not prevent Trump from running?

No

[r0ckyreed]

12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Now Trump's campaign will be the most shameless ever. He's gonna use every scummy trick he can think of because his only chance of avoiding prison is to beat Biden.

Trump is now a cornered rat.

Trump won’t go to prison. He is a former president with classified intel. He has to have the secret service around him, and I would guess he would be put under house arrest. But with mansions like his, that wouldn’t really be prison. They wouldn’t allow Trump to get screwed around by other inmates. 

[Danioover9000]

   Are you sure there's no political motivation at all?

https://www.actualized.org/insights/on-trumps-character

[Husseinisdoingfine]

4 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

   Are you sure there's no political motivation at all?

https://www.actualized.org/insights/on-trumps-character

This blog is more profound: https://www.actualized.org/insights/inside-the-mind-of-trump

Goes deeper into the existential roots of  Trump’s character.

[Danioover9000]

@Husseinisdoingfine

22 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

This blog is more profound: https://www.actualized.org/insights/inside-the-mind-of-trump

Goes deeper into the existential roots of  Trump’s character.

   Sure, but again is there no political factor in doing that instead of just meta lessons?

 

[strika]

24 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Husseinisdoingfine

   Sure, but again is there no political factor in doing that instead of just meta lessons?

 

He just uses that as an excuse, he hates Trump, of course mostly what he says about him is true but the problem is he doesn't shit on others equally if not more, imo Biden alone deserves more shit than Trump but you won't see Leo talk about him, but i think it's just a matter of ignorance, he will wise up on this topic one day.

[DocWatts]

1 hour ago, strika said:

He just uses that as an excuse, he hates Trump, of course mostly what he says about him is true but the problem is he doesn't shit on others equally if not more, imo Biden alone deserves more shit than Trump but you won't see Leo talk about him, but i think it's just a matter of ignorance, he will wise up on this topic one day.

You're commiting a 'false equivalency ' fallacy.

In no reality are Trump and Biden equally incompetent, unethical, deluded, or corrupt.

Defaulting to this stance is an example of an intellectually lazy 'thought terminate cliche'.

 

[strika]

32 minutes ago, DocWatts said:

You're commiting a 'false equivalency ' fallacy.

In no reality are Trump and Biden equally incompetent, unethical, deluded, or corrupt.

Defaulting to this stance is an example of an intellectually lazy 'thought terminate cliche'.

 

Actualized.org forum user supporting a pedophile, can't say i'm suprised 😭😭😭

[aurum]

9 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Do these charges he’s been convicted of actually warrant a prison sentence? The sentencing is not until July 11, but if he appeals the charges, but is sentenced to prison on July 11, will he still go to jail?

The charges are strong enough. But the legal experts I’ve seen so far have said that it’s very unlikely he will face prison. So no.

[Leo Gura]

7 hours ago, strika said:

Actualized.org forum user supporting a pedophile, can't say i'm suprised 😭😭😭

You are getting out of line and spreading low quality takes on this forum. This is a warning. If you keep making low quality posts like this, you will be kicked out of here. We have quality standards here. This is not Reddit where you can post political garbage without consequence.

Edited June 2, 2024 by Leo Gura

[strika]

11 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You are getting out of line and spreading low quality takes on this forum. This is a warning. If you keep making low quality posts like this, you will be kicked out of here. We have quality standards here. This is not Reddit where you can post political garbage without consequence.

Fair, but all i'm saying is beware of Biden, he is not as innocent as this forum paints him to be, with time this will be shown publicly.

[enchanted]

They irony is that Trump wanted to send Hillary to Jail. Shakespeare couldn't have written this better. 

[DLH]

21 hours ago, strika said:

Actualized.org forum user supporting a pedophile, can't say i'm suprised 😭😭😭

 

Unbelievable!

 

Why do Republicans continue to spew BS that Biden and all the Democrats are crooks, pedophiles, and are destroying the economy and America?

 

When will we see the Hard-Evidence of these accusations?

 

Seriously, Trump has claimed he has the greatest minds working for him!  He has the Supreme court stacked!  He has his own media platform, Fox, Newsmax, Alex Jones and Steve Banning working for him!   And “YET”……….?

 

Here is the truth, either Trump’s greatest minds and the Republican MAGA party are totally incompetent, or it’s all MAGA BS!      I vote for both!

 

Trump/MAGA has filed over 60 cases against the Democrats for stealing the elections in Republican friendly Courts, and failed each and every time to provide evidence, or win one Case.

 

Trump controls MAGA and the greatest minds in the House of Representatives that are trying to impeach Biden, jail his son, and close the Mexican Border!  How’s that going for them!   

 

He had 4 years in Office, and yet the Mexican Border is still a Republican talking point! Seriously?????  What the "F" did they do when they controller both the Senate and the House????

Are they that stupid that they can’t out smart the corrupt Democrats and are unable to convince the Republican MAGA Courts to close the Border or make one conviction?

 

The Republicans claim they are the “Party of Law and Order”!

Why is it that this "Law and Order" is only forced on Minorites, Woman, Democrats, Immigrants, Non-Christians etc……..

But hey, lets not force “Law and Order” on Trump or the Insurrection that occurred on Capital Hill!

Can you say “Double Standards” boys and girls!

 

If Biden had committed the crimes that Trump has committed, I would be the first to chant “Lock Him Up”!

 

But don’t give me the BS that Biden should be charged for having classified documents on his property like Trump!  There is a huge difference when someone is refusing to handover the documents and constantly lie to the authorities, compared to Biden willingly handing over the files and fully cooperating with "Republican investigators"!

 

In conclusion!

 

Let’s stop with the BS people and hold both sides accountable with “FACTS”, “EVIDENCE” and total “HONESTY and “TRUTH”!

 

Sorry for the rant!!!

Just getting tired of the BS...

[Danioover9000]

   Yo, donating to Trump is more popular than boobs. You know it's serious when something is more popular than boobs in google:

 

[Danioover9000]

@ryandesreu

1 hour ago, ryandesreu said:

Donate to Trump and boobs are synonymous. 

   No they're not, don't make a false equivalency there.

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Pleeeeeeease do not post Tim Pool in this forum. He's not spreading a conscious form of media and we don't want to give him any more internet traffic.  He serves the lowest common denominator and is not bringing anything profound to the table, and yet websites such as PragerU hosted him in a video.