Immigration is ruining western countries

[Shodburrito]

I went to a Walmart today in an area 10 years ago that used to be a middle-class suburban area. It used to be clean, well kept, and the people in there were respectable decent citizens. Now it has been overrun with 3rd worlders that are obnoxious, rude, have no manners, are poor, and generally low quality.
 

This pattern is happening everywhere. Sweden used to have one of the lowest crime rates, but I just read there now are several cities which are on an advisory list as do not travel. This is because these stage purple/red migrants are flooding into stage orange/green societies and are taking advantage of the amenities while carrying with them their tribalistic bs.

There is a reason 3rd world countries stay under-developed, in poverty, and uneducated. They do not understand western culture, tradition, and social norms. If these foreigners are so great, why don’t they create decent, high-quality societies like we have in the west? It is because they are incapable of doing so. If these migrants are so awesome, why are the cities in Europe falling apart when they are flooded with these people?

This is not racist or bigotry. At some point we need to recognize that total inclusion is not good. Most of these people are not able to properly assimilate into our society. Some immigration is good, but not the shit that we are seeing in Europe and the U.S.

 

Do we want our countries to end up like how India, Africa, and South America is? Then the migration crisis that is happening has got to end. These people need to fix their own damn countries before coming to ours and ruining what the west has been building the for the last several centuries.

What is the problem with saying France for French people, Ireland for Irish people, Italy for Italian people, and etc? There is a reason why we have different countries and it is because each society carries with it a different set of cultures and ethics that are shared. Why can’t we say America for Americans? Why must we be FORCED to include foreigners, FORCED to allow them into our country, FORCED to let them vote and rule over us, FORCED to accept their culture?

Europe is not looking good and America is next. I guarantee if things don’t change in the next 20 years we will see Western countries turn into dumps with skyrocketing crime and poverty rates.

[Loveeee]

I wonder who causes the immigration 

[Shodburrito]

@DefinitelyNotARobot What is it with everyone blaming white people for 3rd world countries problems? Haiti had its revolution over 200 years ago and it's still poor. Ethiopia was never colonized and is still poor. It's time for people to start blaming the countries' citizens for its problems instead of cOlOnIalIsM

Edited May 29 by Shodburrito

[Ajay0]

8 hours ago, Shodburrito said:

Do we want our countries to end up like how India, Africa, and South America is?

For mileniums India and China were the most economically developed civilizations in the world as per economic historians.

Europe gained much of its foundations in mathematics, physics and medicine from India through the medium of the Arabs.

It was only in the last two centuries that India saw widespread poverty due to western colonialism which was bound on exploitation of countries in Asia, Africa and South America.

When colonialism ended, Indian economy was in a state of great damage due to economic policies that favored the colonial nations but impoverished the colonised nations.

Still, India has picked up its economy and is now the fastest growing economy in the world at the moment, and had replaced the UK as the fifth largest economy in the world , and is poised to become the third largest in a few years.

Forecasts have also showed that India and the BRICS nations is bound to have greater surge in millionaire count than the west-centric G7 nations in the coming years.

Europe is having a major issue with its ageing population and low birth rates and consequently there is bound to be need for migrants to address the shortfalls in labor and this could be a reason why european authorities are being lax on immigration from other countries. 

The two world wars which originated in europe on the basis of military alliances, imperialist greed also greatly decimated its population, as well as present conflicts and wars. 

Rather than blaming immigrants, Europe should do some soul-searching on ending its never-ending wars and low birth rates which is decimating its population.

Edited May 30 by Ajay0

[Basman]

Third world countries are less developed and many ethnic immigrants tend to reflect that in my experience. I've never met a stage green middle-eastern person. That doesn't mean that immigrants from outside the western hemisphere (we're really talking about North Africans, Middle-eastern people here primarily) can't live in modern western societies and integrate well enough. In my experience, that is the case most of the time.

A lot of stage green folk are being overly idealistic on this issue and need to better appreciate the challenges that immigration represents. Open borders are a fantasy. Immigration needs to be a controlled measure to add to a countries prosperity. Not detract from it like in Australia with its housing crisis. No one is responsible for "saving the world" or "the sins of the father".

[koops]

@Shodburrito you are right.

Notice this.

Everytime someone mentions what you said, people don't attack your argument.

'you are racist'

'but who is causing it?'

No one is really saying that what are stating is false.

So there are two separate things.

 

This what I dislike more about most leftists.

They just want to look so good and high moral people... in a way they are like those christian fundamentalist, with their 'divine morality' meanwhile they are doing some nasty stuff on the background.
 

Check out this video:

 Summary of the video: HYPOCRITES.

This is what Europe is about. And probably USA.

Then they wonder why far right is growing in almost every European country..

 

[Husseinisdoingfine]

Yeah… bringing in people who are of lower levels of Spiral Development and of lower consciousness to higher development countries is not necessarily a good idea.

But try to explain this to the SDi GREEN system, it will be like talking to a brick wall.

[Schizophonia]

Not only immigration, unfortunately.

[enchanted]

We need to see the world as one species and one country. While immigrants can temporarily drag down a country (i.e. SD levels). It is more likely that the immigrants will be brought higher on the SD scale. This will in turn bring the whole world up. 

Remember division causes conflict. Immigration is a step towards unity. (Even if the short term consequences do not benefit you individually).

[Sucuk Ekmek]

We are Nords and

Skyrim belong to the Nords!

[Yousif]

If you weren’t blue/ orange yourself, maybe even red, you wouldn’t demonize immigrants.
 

Those people go to western countries to become more developed and try to develop their countries.

Just like how westerns used to come to the Muslim countries back in the day to learn medicine, chemistry, mathematics, and many different things since the ancient muslim civilization was the “1st world country “ of the past.

 

as you said yourself, they’re poor, your government knows they’re poor, they’ll be doing the jobs that you don’t want to do while at the same time try not to be low quality for your liking. 

[Husseinisdoingfine]