To Leo: America Is Political Engagement on Easy Mode

[martins name]

@Leo Gura I've been meaning to write you this for some time and was promoted to when you said in the latest video that you've been overestimating the left.

America is one of the worst Western countries to learn general lessons of politics from. The USA is so out of balance that just needs a strong turn to the left. So anyone who wants to go in that direction practically has the correct opinion. How far left is not very important as long as you vote for the progressive candidate in the Democratic primary and vote for whatever the Democratic candidate is in the general. Just vote the spiral. Vote green. Americans don't have to be confronted by nuances. Socialist, Marxist extremists like Hasan Piker generally make equally good choices electorally as moderates like David Pakman.

Take my country Sweden for example, all the 8 parties with over 4% votes are social democratic, the blue, the oranges and the greens. They don't view themselves as social democrats, but non of them wants to fundamentally undo the system to an extent where it would no longer be a social democracy. I don't know who to vote for. It's too complicated. All I know is there is no easy answer. What is tax rate in an optimal government? Right now 43% of the total GDP in Sweden is taxed and the orange/blue coalition is in power. What is too much? 

Another example of things being complicated is that last decade the oranges with the greens cheering on had a retarded amount of asylum immigration from red/BLUE cultures that they now largely regret and blame on each other. This policy has been so disproportionally consequential in relation to all other policies combined, that it would have been better if the Sweden Democrats(blue nationalists) ruled for that period.

If you engage with hard politics you would learn some lessons that are harder to learn from easy mode America. If you really want to understand the limits of leftism look at the countries where the rubber meets the road.

One lesson that I've gotten from Swedish politics is that yellow seems to emerge from people with strong orange, light green rather than strong green, light orange. In Swedish politics, there seem to be more yellow memes in the orange camp than the green camp. So vote the spiral becomes a flawed rule of thumb. Which is something you might have seen if you weren't playing on easy mode.

Famous Swedish philosopher Alexander Bard has given the advice to deeply study 3 very different countries to add depth to more than one dimension of political understanding. If you are interested I'd recommend studying a Nordic country. Particularly either Sweden for its successful businesses and probably being the stage greenest country in the world or Finland for consistently being #1 in the world on the happiness index.

[Danioover9000]

@martins name

2 hours ago, martins name said:

@Leo Gura I've been meaning to write you this for some time and was promoted to when you said in the latest video that you've been overestimating the left.

America is one of the worst Western countries to learn general lessons of politics from. The USA is so out of balance that just needs a strong turn to the left. So anyone who wants to go in that direction practically has the correct opinion. How far left is not very important as long as you vote for the progressive candidate in the Democratic primary and vote for whatever the Democratic candidate is in the general. Just vote the spiral. Vote green. Americans don't have to be confronted by nuances. Socialist, Marxist extremists like Hasan Piker generally make equally good choices electorally as moderates like David Pakman.

Take my country Sweden for example, all the 8 parties with over 4% votes are social democratic, the blue, the oranges and the greens. They don't view themselves as social democrats, but non of them wants to fundamentally undo the system to an extent where it would no longer be a social democracy. I don't know who to vote for. It's too complicated. All I know is there is no easy answer. What is tax rate in an optimal government? Right now 43% of the total GDP in Sweden is taxed and the orange/blue coalition is in power. What is too much? 

Another example of things being complicated is that last decade the oranges with the greens cheering on had a retarded amount of asylum immigration from red/BLUE cultures that they now largely regret and blame on each other. This policy has been so disproportionally consequential in relation to all other policies combined, that it would have been better if the Sweden Democrats(blue nationalists) ruled for that period.

If you engage with hard politics you would learn some lessons that are harder to learn from easy mode America. If you really want to understand the limits of leftism look at the countries where the rubber meets the road.

One lesson that I've gotten from Swedish politics is that yellow seems to emerge from people with strong orange, light green rather than strong green, light orange. In Swedish politics, there seem to be more yellow memes in the orange camp than the green camp. So vote the spiral becomes a flawed rule of thumb. Which is something you might have seen if you weren't playing on easy mode.

Famous Swedish philosopher Alexander Bard has given the advice to deeply study 3 very different countries to add depth to more than one dimension of political understanding. If you are interested I'd recommend studying a Nordic country. Particularly either Sweden for its successful businesses and probably being the stage greenest country in the world or Finland for consistently being #1 in the world on the happiness index.

   I agree that America may not be the ideal for political learning, especially all this internet misinformation and other developmental factors. Best place for politics is in the UK.

[martins name]

@Danioover9000 interesting, how so?