Why approaching women is important?

[Butters]

On 28-5-2024 at 5:57 AM, TheGod said:

When I talk to them it’s not a feministic nonsense. 

I don't understand what this means. Can you give an example of where you talk to a woman and it is feministic nonsense? 

[BlessedLion]

On 5/28/2024 at 0:57 AM, TheGod said:

 

Bro we are definitely on the same page about this issue! My ex was from Rio! 

I can't compare Latin women to European or Canadian women, they are on a different level! I actually miss the time when I worked on cruise ships in San Paulo. I met so many beautiful women. Thanks God, there are some Latin girls here, in Toronto. When I talk to them it’s not a feministic nonsense. On the other hand, they are not trying to please men easier. It’s a perfect balance. I could write a book about different it is to flirt with Latin women in Spanish.

I’m planning to move to Latin America at some point in my life. Not only for the girls, I like their night life it kinda suits my personality. The only reason why I’m here in Canada is because of the war in my home country.   

Spiral dynamics mambo-jambo is irrelevant here. People who want to be at the ultimate stage don't even need women, because it's a distraction.

Bro! Huge smile on my face reading this. Finally someone who gets it! 
 

It’s so beyond spiral dynamics it’s energetic and polarizing sexual energies. It’s perfect. 
 

Once you see it you can’t unsee it and it’s like hitting a gold mine. All the best man 

[BlessedLion]

On 5/28/2024 at 8:58 AM, NoSelfSelf said:

Since when women make man feel like a man that doesnt make sense.

When one is not a man thats how he thinks: i cant bring out things out of her so i want her to be masculine to bring things out of me😅

This makes no sense. There are things that the feminine can do to enchance the polarization of energy in your masculine. Similar to how you might feel more masculine when lifting weights, working on a project, or accomplishing goals. Women can also brings this out. 
 

If you don’t understand that or have never felt that, I feel sorry for you

[BlessedLion]

6 hours ago, Lyubov said:

I don’t really know how to start a conversation with a woman in a loud club setting. It’s easier for me in a setting outside a club. A bar or in the beach is easier. In a loud club where there’s a ton of girls and guys acting bold, I’m just lost. I sort of want to learn and have no limits when and where I interact with women. 

Yeah I resonate. I only do much better in intimate locations where I can actually focus on the conversation. From what I can gather, clubs are not really for talking it’s more dancing and acting stupid 

[BlessedLion]

4 hours ago, Butters said:

I don't understand what this means. Can you give an example of where you talk to a woman and it is feministic nonsense? 

Not sure what he meant, but I would say it’s the energy more than the conversation. When you speak with Northern women, they just aren’t that feminine and the energy of the interaction is less fluid. She has more programming of how you have to act and more judgements of you for being a man

[Lyubov]

6 hours ago, TheGod said:

To be honest I prefer day game as well. I started my approaches in clubs, but now I can clearly see it doesn't fit my personality. Drank girls are very annoying, especially if I'm the only sober person on a dance floor. 

But it's easier to have sex from night game and it's much faster to start kissing or making out with a girl. I saw some guys doing it within minutes. 

Yes for sure. I’ve been laid from clubs before but it always seemed like the woman chose me. 

I have some perhaps limiting beliefs about try to talk to women in clubs 

I basically believe that the essence of the interaction is too lopsided, like in a casino. As a man you have to talk to a ton of girls. I was at the club last night and lots of guys were coming up to girls and most were not making it far. I don’t find this enjoyable at all. It seems far too much like a silly game and it also seems to me give too much validation and attention to women. 

I believe the man should be seen as the prize for the woman to genuinely be really horny and want the guy and clubs out a guy in a situation where there is high volume for this but also high volume for a ton of girls that aren’t interested. 

So it’s sort of a grind and really not fun at all. Add on top of that entrance fees, drinks and how different clubs have different crowds varying in friendliness and exclusivity. It’s not the environment I shine best in. I mean some clubs and bars I do well but not all, many table heavy or more ritzy clubs I don’t really vibe or have the same belief system or values as perhaps the guys doing well in these environments? 

On the beach, walks, parks, just like more during the day or in a setting away from really loud pop music in a club, I do better in because this sort of dynamic where I put myself in a lower position than the girl is gone.

Maybe that’s my issue though about clubs. I put myself in a lower position than the girl purposefully in my mind, when I shouldn’t be and just dance, have fun and start talking to whatever girls are around me on the dance floor. 

[Lyubov]

On 5/28/2024 at 0:57 AM, TheGod said:

 

Bro we are definitely on the same page about this issue! My ex was from Rio! 

I can't compare Latin women to European or Canadian women, they are on a different level! I actually miss the time when I worked on cruise ships in San Paulo. I met so many beautiful women. Thanks God, there are some Latin girls here, in Toronto. When I talk to them it’s not a feministic nonsense. On the other hand, they are not trying to please men easier. It’s a perfect balance. I could write a book about different it is to flirt with Latin women in Spanish.

I’m planning to move to Latin America at some point in my life. Not only for the girls, I like their night life it kinda suits my personality. The only reason why I’m here in Canada is because of the war in my home country.   

Spiral dynamics mambo-jambo is irrelevant here. People who want to be at the ultimate stage don't even need women, because it's a distraction.

I’m living in Rio de Janeiro now. Maybe you can share me some culture tips with dating  Brazilian women? I just got out a 3 year long relationship with a girl from Russia, and I don’t know I find Brazilian women very different from Russian women. I find Russian girls play far less games and really value strong conversation. I almost want to say I think Russian girls are more predictable to me but I’m not sure if that’s from experience or if I just share the same values as them often. Russian girls really value trust and consistency in a man and they really don’t kiss quick at all or give sex quick. If you fuck a Russian girl the first eeek consider yourself on the lucky side. Russian girls also really rope you into be a boyfriend. I find they play far less games. Russian girls are my favorite.

Brazilian girls idk I find they play a lot of games. They seem to date around more and do more slutty stuff. I don’t like how they may kiss several guys in one night. They seem to want a guy that is sorta sleazy and tries to kiss them real quickly. They are constantly touching me and I’m not sure if that’s a sign of interest or just culture. Russian girls never touch like that. Brazilian girls seem very fickle and flake. I also find they leave a lot of room for men in their lives to flirt with them, much more than Russians. I don’t like this. 

Im going to accept Brazilian women for who they are and do my own thing and I definitely want to start dating here but I want to learn about the culture and see if there’s something I’m just not getting about the women here. Maybe I’m just so introvert euro minded after years dating in Russia, it’s a huge culture shock for me in Brazil. I don’t get the women at all. 

[ricachica]

On 5/26/2024 at 8:01 PM, TheGod said:

I moved to Toronto a few weeks ago in order to work on my game. I’ve approached just around 50+ girls by now (90%-day game) and I can clearly see why approaching is important. Everyone has their own reasons for doing the game some of them are very immature and toxic (lay count) and some of them are wise (developing social skills). My reason was mainly to get rid of the fear. Today after approaching another girl and asking her what were her top 5 values (she said she never thought about it and then she said she didn’t have any specific value) I became aware why I had such a big fear. It’s because all this time I’d been deluded by my own imagination. When I was a teenage, I had created an image of what is women without actually talking to women (I was very shy and anxious kid).

 Now at the age of 27 the illusion cracked and I begin to see women for who they actually are. To be honest I’m very disappointed with a value of women I have approached (although they looked hot). I know it sounds funny, but deep down I used to think of them as though they were goddess, beings with a higher value than regular guy. I realized that the perfect girl that I had been chasing all this time actually is a fantasy.

On the other hand, I’m happy because now I know that women won’t add any crucial value or meaning to my life. I’m responsible for making my life meaningful. Real happiness doesn’t depend on having or not having a girlfriend, unfortunately to my falls beliefs and ideas. I know some guys who keep idealizing and worshiping women and the other half demonizes them thinking that women are evil materialistic cold bitches. None of these guys are correct. They are trapped in their minds that play them.

Nevertheless, I won’t stop approaching women, until the fear of approaching is completely gone.

I know this is a bit unrelated, but this reminds of my social anxiety back in high school as a woman. Freshman year, I sat next to the "hot popular girl" in class and felt very proud to have gotten her to even accept my presence, as I was definitely not hot back then and definitely not popular. I tried to fit in desperately and wore clothes like them etc, even though I was still a social outcast and trying to connect with the popular girls felt futile.

Come senior year, at the age of 17, I was in a math class with the same supposed hot popular girl. Or so I thought. One day she had a fit for no reason and got up to throw the calculator we were using roughly back into the box, like throwing it in in a loud and inappropriate way as it could break. The teacher scolded her and made her pick it up and put it back in nicely, as she loudly exclaimed she didn't care about education anyway, since she was going to be a cupcake store owner like her mom one day.

The dude sitting next to me shook his head and said to me, "Ugh, what a waste of space". It was like a light bulb went off in my head right then! I completely made up her extreme importance in my head and felt the need to match up and compare myself to her for 4 years of high school, thinking she was the hot popular girl that people wanted to be like, when that never actually was the case! She was just a narcissistically mean hot girl that oozed fake importance without actually having any real inner substance to speak to it, and I bought into it!

I felt so silly, and ever since I have been happy to just be who I am. and I guess I also think of myself as the hot girl now at 26, just in my own way  

[NoSelfSelf]

@BlessedLion Makes no sense because this is all about matter of influence.When one is influenced by outside stimuli which enhances its own identity there comes the problem.Women wear dress,make up to feel sexy and thats okay for them but its not okay for a man(too add clothes etc to feel better)because then he doesnt have influence over himself,then doesnt have influence over a woman.When one feels too much from outside, then everything you do has average influence ,then you have to go find women in other countries because your influence is weak.

You use feel too much,make me feel like a man  make you feel this way ,which influences who you are ,thats a feminine trait.Man is solid in his own identity which doesnt get bigger or smaller only by himself.

Edited May 31 by NoSelfSelf