The Unfathomable Depth Of Consciousness

[emil1234]

@Princess Arabia as i just stated, absolutley no phenomena what so ever. i sense your stance will be "well then thats what your conscious of", but if this is the case you've ran into a contradiction

Edited May 20 by emil1234

[A Fellow Lighter]

59 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

What is consciousness if not something conscious of something else

Why can't it be just one thing conscious of itself? If I had to enunciate it, consciousness is the reflection of the all-Mind, or what has been referred to here as the "Godhead".

Imagine a mirror without a frame, a mirror which extends infinitely in all directions. Now imagine that this mirror was/is the only thing in existence so much so that it is just your complete awareness and this mirror in existence. But this mirror does not work like an ordinary mirror. Instead of reflecting what is in front of it, this infinite mirror reflects your thoughts. Such is the nature of consciousness, it brings your thoughts (or love) into vibration. 

Of course this is only an attempt in explaining it. This attempt in itself is a thought. However, all thoughts are finite, but consciousness isn't – consciousness is the infinite mirror which reflects your (the all-Mind) thoughts. 

[A Fellow Lighter]

The depth of consciousness is, in deed, unfathomable. There is no distinction between objects and thoughts, no distinction between memory and experience, no distinction between past and future, no distinction between self and other, no distinction between a question and an answer. All is simply consciousness for the sake of consciousness. All logic, all narratives, all systems, all beliefs, all ideas, all emotions, all impulses, all desire, all gratification, all of it is consciousness. 

Consciousness is the simulation of love. 

[Princess Arabia]

56 minutes ago, A Fellow Lighter said:

The depth of consciousness is, in deed, unfathomable. There is no distinction between objects and thoughts, no distinction between memory and experience, no distinction between past and future, no distinction between self and other, no distinction between a question and an answer. All is simply consciousness for the sake of consciousness. All logic, all narratives, all systems, all beliefs, all ideas, all emotions, all impulses, all desire, all gratification, all of it is consciousness. 

Consciousness is the simulation of love. 

Seems like you're calling it Consciousness and I'm calling it the Absolute. Consciousness is "within" the Absolute which has no mirror, or rather is just direct. You are staring at it right now, which is the Absolute just staring without a you.

[Ahbapx]

52 minutes ago, A Fellow Lighter said:

The depth of consciousness is, in deed, unfathomable. There is no distinction between objects and thoughts, no distinction between memory and experience, no distinction between past and future, no distinction between self and other, no distinction between a question and an answer. All is simply consciousness for the sake of consciousness. All logic, all narratives, all systems, all beliefs, all ideas, all emotions, all impulses, all desire, all gratification, all of it is consciousness. 

Consciousness is the simulation of love. 

All is consciousness?!

A rock is consciousness?!

What kinda of consciousness, can't even be aware of itself or anything else at all?

 

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

How can there be awareness of the now when it's all one. Absolute. You cannot stop imagining the time and be aware of anything because the time is what created the you in the first place. There is no you without thought and time. Awareness is also separation. What is there to be aware of in the Absolute. You are describing the illusion, the dream, separation. 

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

All one? What all? That's just an idea. The time is another idea, you can stop the time in any moment and open the now. There is you without thoughts because existence exist and you are that. Just there is not and idea of you, but you are. Are=conciousness, just realize that. It's like the light that creates the reality being conscious of itself. Without conciousness there is not existence, and existence exist, then you, the conciousness, are. What if the conciousness stops? For how much time? Anytime without conciousness don't exist, then it's continuous, always, eternal. Here and now the eternity is. Just stop the time and see. 

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia The absolute is a void of nothing like deep sleep, only you know you are there and there's nothing there and you can never go to sleep because you were going to life now you are awake and there isnt anything there but your consciousness and you are aware you have it. You will either be scared or happy.

Edited May 20 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Breakingthewall said:

All one? What all? That's just an idea. The time is another idea, you can stop the time in any moment and open the now. There is you without thoughts because existence exist and you are that. Just there is not and idea of you, but you are. Are=conciousness, just realize that. It's like the light that creates the reality being conscious of itself. Without conciousness there is not existence, and existence exist, then you, the conciousness, are. What if the conciousness stops? For how much time? Anytime without conciousness don't exist, then it's continuous, always, eternal. Here and now the eternity is. Just stop the time and see. 

There's just a body doing it's thing. No consciousness. I AM is the same as you are. You are what? Consciousness? That's separation. There is already no time and space. There's nothing to stop. The Absolute isn't conscious of itself because it is everything. You're trying to break out of an illusion which is just an appearance. There's no changing an appearance because it is just what is. Any change would also be what's appearing.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

and there isnt anything there but your consciousness and you are aware you have it

There is no "you are aware you have it". That's the illusion. That's the Absolute appearing as someone who thinks they are aware they have consciousness.

Edited May 20 by Princess Arabia

[Hojo]

@Princess Arabia You will see God is the being of you. You cannot escape truth. You will be there but it wont be you.

Its like trying to escape waking up in the morning. You have no control over it but you are just there.

There will be a time where you experience being tied up eyes sown shut ears sown shut mouth sown up nose sown up and you will want to move and scream and cry but have no way of doing it.

 

Edited May 20 by Hojo

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

All one? What all? That's just an idea

All one is just an idea within the Absolute for sure that's why there's no way to really describe it because all one is also the Absolute "all one-ing".

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@Princess Arabia You will see God is the being of you. You cannot escape truth. You will be there but it wont be you.

Its like trying to escape waking up in the morning. You have no control over it but you are just there.

 

There is no "you are just there". That is just an appearance. There is no Truth to escape from. What is, just is. Truth is also the Absolute appearing as Truth. There's nothing but the Absolute. The Absolute is truth-ing.

[Breakingthewall]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

There's just a body doing it's thing. No consciousness. I AM is the same as you are. You are what? Consciousness? That's separation. There is already no time and space. There's nothing to stop. The Absolute isn't conscious of itself because it is everything. You're trying to break out of an illusion which is just an appearance. There's no changing an appearance because it is just what is. Any change would also be what's appearing.

Never, in the eternity, will exist anything outside you. Everything is just ideas, the existence is this. See that and the time stops. You are creating the time with your mind. Forget everything, empty your mind and see the unavoidable: you are the conciousness and nothing exist out of you because you are the existence. Then you can penetrate in your substance and see deeper. The depth has no bottom 

[Princess Arabia]

It's all appearances, people. Nothing is real. Don't care if you say when a gun is staring you in the face, let's see what's not real, Doesn't change the fact that nothing is real, only appears to be. Go ahead and show the little kid dying of cancer, doesn't negate the fact that it's still an appearance within the Absolute. There will be guns appearing, dying appearing, little suffering kids and animals appearing, my crying appearing, my mom's death appearing, your rebutting this message appearing, your disagreeing with me appearing.....all appearances. 

[Ishanga]

LoL...

 

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Never, in the eternity, will exist anything outside you. Everything is just ideas, the existence is this. See that and the time stops. You are creating the time with your mind. Forget everything, empty your mind and see the unavoidable: you are the conciousness and nothing exist out of you because you are the existence. Then you can penetrate in your substance and see deeper. The depth has no bottom 

It is already the case. Creating time with the mind is so but that's not really happening only seems to be. There cannot be the stopping of something that's not really happening. 

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

LoL...

 

Lol for sure. So what. It's all woo woo with the Absolute. Can't escape the woo woo. If I say I'll stop all this woo woo, that will still be what is happening. You are resisting life. It is alive. Even your calling it woo woo is alive, direct and that which is the case. Nothing serious about what's happening....or not. You're looking for meaning within something that has none. It's OK, but when you recognize this, and that it is free to appear as whatever it wants and that that is unconditional love, no conditions, that contracted energy begins to loosen and less neurosis appears with that energy.

Edited May 20 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

There is nowhere to go and no progress to be made. This is already completion. Even your saying there is no progress to be made with woo woo stuff and it's not getting you nowhere is completion. Doing or not doing Spiritual practices is completion. If I was to say to myself or even was to tell you to stop that is also completion. It's all already done. Complete. ABSOLUTE. No stopping of anything is necessary or starting or continuing or not continuing. It's not a choice for one to make. It's not a choice. Whatever happens is what happens, Things can fall away naturally but it's not because of a conscious attempt in doing so, it will be because it just happened.

The individual is desperately seeking for the continuation of it's existence, which isn't, but only a thought and all thought is interested in is the continuation of it's momentum. There's no doing only happening. 

[Breakingthewall]

6 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

There is nowhere to go and no progress to be made.

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

 

You can focus in the now and be aware of your true nature and  the eternity, ant then get deep in the structure of the configuration of this experience and understand as deep as you can the movement of the reality 

[A Fellow Lighter]

7 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Seems like you're calling it Consciousness and I'm calling it the Absolute. Consciousness is "within" the Absolute which has no mirror, or rather is just direct. You are staring at it right now, which is the Absolute just staring without a you.

Yes, it seems like it. Of course there is no mirror. The infinite mirror is just an analogy. By definition, that which is infinite is absolute. Do you know anything more infinite than consciousness? If not then why call it "the Absolute" when you already know what it is? That's like calling a value "x" despite the fact that this value is already known to be 1.

7 hours ago, Ahbapx said:

All is consciousness?!

A rock is consciousness?!

What kinda of consciousness, can't even be aware of itself or anything else at all?

 

 

 

What you have to realize is that a "rock" is an idea made upon the foundation of consciousness. The rock is part of the land, but the "land" itself is also an idea that you conceived upon consciousness. The land is part of the biosphere, but the "biosphere" is also an idea you made up upon consciousness. The biosphere encompasses living things, but "living things" and "non-living things" is also an idea you made up upon consciousness. You are a living thing, but "you" are also an idea that you conceived upon consciousness. 

You probably get the pattern at this point: one idea leads to another idea. There is no way for one thing such as an idea to lead into something that is not such as truth. Only the foundation is the truth, because it is 'found' and not conceived. 

You ask what kind of consciousness can't be aware of itself or anything else, assuming that the rock is also consciousness. But what if consciousness is as simple as the mere fact of you noticing the rock is, for a matter of fact, the rock noticing itself? Isn't everything between you and the rock merely an idea?

All of creation is consciousness, my friend. Even now, there is nothing between me and you, we are one thing, one being, we are the same consciousness. Everything else is merely an idea, a thought, etc.