What are your thoughts on Only Fans?

[aurum]

5 hours ago, MsNobody said:

I think what Im really questioning is the repression of the feminine, I do believe that the toxicity with sex comes exactly from this repression. Like to be spiritual and divine I need to be like virgin Mary, I cannot be whole, only some parts of me are acceptable. I've also been studying about Mary Magdalene and am shocked how much she was connected to her sexuality. Even reading the book The Religion with No Name that talks about the open air churches of Dionysius, where women would hangout in the sun naked working with herbs (some of them psychedelic). 

Yes, there is repression. It's great that you are deconstructing that.

But it also pays to be mindful of your balance.

It's very easy when you are deconstructing repression to swing the pendulum hard in the other direction and assume that there should be no limitations at all.

Just something to consider.

[Princess Arabia]

On 5/13/2024 at 2:50 PM, Michael569 said:

Only fans no different from any other trash porn website with the pay wall being only difference.

Are you aware that there are people on only fans teaching cooking classes and other non-sexual things. 

 

On 5/13/2024 at 2:50 PM, Michael569 said:

I think the deeper reason is that maybe you are worried that quitting your job as an architect will significantly cut your income and being IG and YouTuber might not be enough to provide you the same level of financial security so you're creating a delusional fantasy that somehow OF content is aligned with your healing so you can excuse your moral distortion because i bet deep down you know it's a terrible choice of "hobby/career" , hence why this post came up to be because you were kinda hoping for the forum to talk you out of it 

What is wrong with taking tasteful pictures and posting them for an income online if you're comfortable doing that. How is that a delusional fantasy. Why is that a terrible hobby/career choice if someone is comfortable doing that and is a grown adult and not a child. You're even assuming that she came here to be talked out of doing something she's obviously comfortable doing. Have you seen those ancient, some even modern pictures and carvings of nude figures plapped all over some streets with men's genitalia hanging all of and women's boobs showing and in museums and all from the biblical days, but not just that just semi nude pictures in art studios and places like that. All for children to lay their eyes on. Some even selling for thousands if not millions of dollars. What's the difference here, the words Only Fans? 

 

On 5/13/2024 at 2:50 PM, Michael569 said:

No amount of spiritual mambo jumbo wrapped nearly in fluffy words like "healing, trauma, release, manifestation, acceptation" will cover up the fact that once you start posting nude content on OF, you're selling yourself off to the lowest bidder and with it your dignity and divine feminine purity.

Why don't you go and tell that to Mary Magdalene or Eve from the garden of Eden and not to mention the countless nude pics and artifacts and art work in museums where people cherish those nude pics because they don't look at them for sexual gratification. Open your mind. Seems like you're projecting your own inner feelings towards sexuality here and the showing of the beautiful human body. I'm speaking about her case here and not some trashy pussy hole showing with spreaded ass cheeks and a dildo up the butt kind of picture. (excuse my french, but i'm trying to make a distinction here). 

 

On 5/13/2024 at 2:50 PM, Michael569 said:

Also, worth mentioning, the competition on OF is absolutely staggering and so while you may be posting intimate content, the level of ROI -return on investment (or more precisely ROLD - return on lost dignity) might be pretty bad unless you are exceptionally good at creating tickle content on IG and if that's the path then... well, none of this will change your mind.

Seems you're pretty familiar with OF to be having this much information to share but you're trying to deter her from a place you're oh so familiar with. Her whole story seems to be one of class and not of some tickle me IG trash model but you're still on her as if she's thinking of whoring down the town and plasting herself all over social media doing the twerky twerk.

Sorry to come off on you like this, Michael, but when I read your comment, it just seemed very judgemental and like you are pretty familiar with OF but didn't like it for some reason and now it's all bad and you can't see the other side of the spectrum. 

[Princess Arabia]

23 hours ago, Salvijus said:

. Being an addiction seller is not a very satvic income arguably. It's best if your income comes from helping people. Not exploiting their addictions and making the world just a shade darker.

You're buying stuff right now, have bought or will buy and consume something from a company who is exploiting people through their addictions. It's everywhere. Need me to name a few? A lot of people are addicted to their phones, certain foods, sodas and coffee, addicted to fast cars, addicted to shopping, cigarettes and alcohol, addicted to music, addicted to television and video games, need I go on because I can. Most of the world's consumption is coming from a place of toxicity and more than half of things manufactured are hurting people and not helping them holistically and that's being generous when I say more than half.

[Salvijus]

25 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're buying stuff right now, have bought or will buy and consume something from a company who is exploiting people through their addictions. It's everywhere. Need me to name a few? A lot of people are addicted to their phones, certain foods, sodas and coffee, addicted to fast cars, addicted to shopping, cigarettes and alcohol, addicted to music, addicted to television and video games, need I go on because I can. Most of the world's consumption is coming from a place of toxicity and more than half of things manufactured are hurting people and not helping them holistically and that's being generous when I say more than half.

I agree with this. The whole world is indeed corrupt. But just because everyone is doing it doesn't make it positive somehow. Each such activity adds to the problem more and more. It depends what side you want to be. Part of a solution, or part of the problem? 

And in general it's a big life trap to sell your integrity for the money. And turn the blind eye to the consequences of your actions.

Edited May 15 by Salvijus

[strika]

31 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You're buying stuff right now, have bought or will buy and consume something from a company who is exploiting people through their addictions. It's everywhere. Need me to name a few? A lot of people are addicted to their phones, certain foods, sodas and coffee, addicted to fast cars, addicted to shopping, cigarettes and alcohol, addicted to music, addicted to television and video games, need I go on because I can. Most of the world's consumption is coming from a place of toxicity and more than half of things manufactured are hurting people and not helping them holistically and that's being generous when I say more than half.

Yes but there are levels to this, attacking sexual energy is as evil as it gets, it's our most important energy and for it to get exploited is much worse than being exploited by food or phone, i never understand why women have this instinct to defend OnlyWhores, it's the most evil legal market there is

[strika]

Just now, strika said:

Yes but there are levels to this, attacking sexual energy is as evil as it gets, it's our most important energy and for it to get exploited is much worse than being exploited by food or phone, i never understand why women have this instinct to defend OnlyWhores, it's the most evil legal market there is

But honestly the reason why women defend it (or anyone that defends it really) is because they don't understand the importance of sexual energy, this is still one of those things absolutely ignored in society and on this forum too, so i can't say i'm suprised, it is what it is

[Princess Arabia]

I'm a working girl and i've never even been on OF. A lot of these guys here have because they all know about the ins and outs of the operation. They will be the first to deter you from doing what you're considering; because, as males, it's hard to see the other side of this. They are not aware of how many women can do this type of work and it not be what they're used to hearing about. They'll be the first to call it trashy then go home and click on the site out of curiosity then go on porn hub and see those OF girls thinking it's all they do and nothing else. I've heard of cooking classes on OF and more non-sexual stuff. 

What you're talking about, and if you're comfortable doing it, and are aware of the aftermath as in leaked pics, then I see nothing wrong with it. Most men are unaware that the adult industry doesn't have to come with abuse, drugs, exploiting and negativity. Everything in life has negative consequences. Going out on the streets and selling your body VS taking class pictures and posting them on a paid site for income are different things. 

When it comes to sexuality, most people are ashamed of their own and will project that unto the world. There are lots of classy people out there who would gladly patronize you for your legal services without it meaning you're jeopardizing your safety or overstepping your boundaries if you're comfortable with it. 

It's so tiring to see the closed-mindedness surrounding sexuality and it is one of the reasons why most are ashamed or closeted because they are doing worse than what you're suggesting behind closed doors and keeping it in the closet. 

Guys are very hypocritical when it comes to this stuff because they're the ones patronizing but always trying to deter. It's because of their own minds and why they do it and it comes with shame. You're obviously not shameful about what you're suggesting but they will take on the shame for you because if their own inner demons, if there's such a thing.

[strika]

On 13. 05. 2024. at 5:01 PM, MsNobody said:

So after a decade of taking artistic semi nude pictures for myself and posting some on IG I decided to create an Only Fans, still navigating the waters of this new territory and questioning where Im getting myself into so would love to hear what you all think.

A little about my background before you think I'm just selling my body, Im an architect but at the moment quit my office job and am focusing on my YT channel, IG page and my courses and mentoring sessions, Im also exploring more of my sexuality, I feel like big part of embracing my shadow and processing the traumas of repression (im from the countryside of Brazil and had a really conservative religious upbringing) is diving into those areas where society tells me not to.

One of those areas was psychedelics and oh boy, am I loving this road people always told me not to get into, with sex its been the same thing, all the taboos of society hide the gems of life, "the cave you fear to enter holds the treasure you seek". My biggest breakthroughs in life came from diving into psychedelics, getting comfortable with death and my own mortality, and now tapping into this life source (aka sex energy) another thing I find it to be interesting is that all the people buying my pictures are very respectful, no one is saying nonsense, it can also be because of my content, I talk mainly about psychedelics and personal development. 

I had a psychedelic trip where the theme was sexual repression from my ancestors and society and the thought "I am that too" was stuck in my mind, then I went to look up and found "Ta Tvam Asi: I Am That Too" which is a Sanskrit term, I feel like Im becoming more whole in the process of accepting Im not only love and light, Im also all of the other stuff I repress and deny, what Ram Dass called humanity, darkness, the bad, the ugly.  

Thank you for reading!

 

 

Congratulations on officially becoming a whore, saying that you're doing this to "embrace the shadow" and "process the traumas" is indeed a beautiful excuse, good luck on selling integrity and your soul! (But of course you can always get it back, even tho it's harder with that level of a soul sellout)

[Princess Arabia]

16 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

And in general it's a big life trap to sell your integrity for the money. And turn the blind eye to the consequences of your actions.

This is a personal choice and she obviously don't see it as being an integrity problem. You do. Not everybody that visit those sites are addicted. Stop with the morality bullshit already around sexual contents. 

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, strika said:

Congratulations on officially becoming a whore, saying that you're doing this to "embrace the shadow" and "process the traumas" is indeed a beautiful excuse, good luck on selling integrity and your soul! (But of course you can always get it back, even tho it's harder with that level of a soul sellout)

The lady didn't come on here in a disrespectful manner and wrote her OP as if she wanted to go whore the place down. You guys don't see how you're the ones with low integrity if you want to go there by attacking a very respectful post with your vulgar language. 

[Princess Arabia]

19 minutes ago, strika said:

Yes but there are levels to this, attacking sexual energy is as evil as it gets, it's our most important energy and for it to get exploited is much worse than being exploited by food or phone, i never understand why women have this instinct to defend OnlyWhores, it's the most evil legal market there is

Disappointed are we. Someone ripped you off. Sorry to hear.

[strika]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The lady didn't come on here in a disrespectful manner and wrote her OP as if she wanted to go whore the place down. You guys don't see how you're the ones with low integrity if you want to go there by attacking a very respectful post with your vulgar language. 

I'm just keeping it real, spirituality isn't about being fake and having the "stupid acceptance of everything" approach, she is selling her soul, i'm the one telling her off with a strong approach, you're the one encouraging her with a lovely approach, one of us is keeping it real

[Princess Arabia]

@MsNobodyI hope you realize now that this is not the forum to ask this kind of advice. There are lots of incels on here and males who are having problems with women and their own sexuality. They will try to belittle you and try to make themselves seem like Gods and the moral police will step forward and try to tarnish you because of their own insecurities. I know you're capable of handling it but I'm just letting you know what to expect. 

[strika]

5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Disappointed are we. Someone ripped you off. Sorry to hear.

I have never paid for anything on the internet ever (bar Leo's LP course) but porn did indeed rip off my soul which is why i had such a big contrast once i went the other way, the way of valuing sexual energy and keeping it sacred in a non-repressive way and that's exactly why i can tell her that her contributing to a pornographic company is indeed a selfish act of evil both for herself and others, and not just any little kind of evil but the biggest legal evil there is

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, strika said:

I'm just keeping it real, spirituality isn't about being fake and having the "stupid acceptance of everything" approach, she is selling her soul, i'm the one telling her off with a strong approach, you're the one encouraging her with a lovely approach, one of us is keeping it real

Keeping what real. Why don't you go to the museums where they have fully naked bodies on display or down the street on Dr Martin Luther King Boulevard where that sculptor of a naked man is showing his penis or on Google where tons of naked artifacts are on display. Not to mention they sell for millions of dollars. 

[strika]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

@MsNobodyI hope you realize now that this is not the forum to ask this kind of advice. There are lots of incels on here and males who are having problems with women and their own sexuality. They will try to belittle you and try to make themselves seem like Gods and the moral police will step forward and try to tarnish you because of their own insecurities. I know you're capable of handling it but I'm just letting you know what to expect. 

Ffs, one non-delusional take from a women when it comes to pornography is all i ask for.

[strika]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Keeping what real. Why don't you go to the museums where they have fully naked bodies on display or down the street on Dr Martin Luther King Boulevard where that sculptor of a naked man is showing his penis or on Google where tons of naked artifacts are on display. Not to mention they sell for millions of dollars. 

That's a whole different thing, apples and oranges, the intention behind those sculptors isn't exploitation of lust, the purpose behind her OF would be the exploitation of lust, one is an actual example of healthy sexuality, the other is example of preying on the weak

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, strika said:

but porn did indeed rip off my soul

You didn't have to even say this; it's pretty obvious. It's the only reason you're mad. It's a shame women have to pay the price for all you horny men out there who are angry at the porn industry. Your arguments are biased and are coming from a place of hurt and now this decent woman is a whore in your eyes just for taking semi-nude pics and you want to preach about dignity. 

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, strika said:

the purpose behind her OF would be the exploitation of lust,

I'm through with you. Weak? You're assuming. I'm go leave you alone. You're all going to be coming from a place of assuming because its hard for your weak ass to understand that some men just enjoy for the sake of enjoying. Not all men who watch porn or look at naked women are weak, desperate, lonely, bald, fat, or whatever; some just like to do it just like how they like to watch basketball. You guys who have been hurt and destroyed are dangerous to women and should go seek help with your anger. All she's doing is taking pictures. No one is fucking forced to subscribe to her. Why are you guys always blaming the women because yours not strong enough to not go there. It's pretty pathetic.

[strika]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You didn't have to even say this; it's pretty obvious. It's the only reason you're mad. It's a shame women have to pay the price for all you horny men out there who are angry at the porn industry. Your arguments are biased and are coming from a place of hurt and now this decent woman is a whore in your eyes just for taking semi-nude pics and you want to preach about dignity. 

I don't think you understand, this is not my personal experience of something, this is a universal thing of anyone that has ever interacted with pornography, both sides men and women, this includes people watching porn and those making it, both sides lose their soul, whether you realize it or not is another thing, of course there are degrees to it, some will lose the soul a little bit, some a lot, depending on how much they have interacted with it but it WILL happen no matter if one wants it or not, it's like getting shot, no matter who you are when you get shot you will experience basically the exact same thing as everyone else that got shot too, there are degrees to it, some get shot in the foot, some in the gut, some in the head, but as long as the bullet got you you will have a wound, and that wound can be healed thankfully and there is no wholesome way of shooting someone, bullet is evil no matter the intention (in the context of pornography, not counting artistic sexuality) and what you're doing is you're encouraging her to be a serial killer and i'm someone that got shot once and recovered and i'm telling you don't become a killer because it kills people and of course when you hurt others you're hurting yourself.