construct awareness and pedophilia

[Majed]

alright boys let's philosophize about how the construct aware mind views pedophilia:
from a construct aware point of view the difference between adults and children is seen as an arbitrary construct, therefore pedophilia itself is a delusion in the sense that it separates reality in an arbitrary fashion when in fact it's fluid and there aren't as clear a distinction as the prior stages might think. 

Therefore greater empathy towards pedophiles is reached and an acknowledgment that pedophilia points to a phenomenon in reality that is no different from regular sexuality.

people who demonizes pedophiles are seen as fools and barbarians who need to develop themselves towards higher cognition and ways of interacting with the world, nature and other. 

biology still comes into play at the construct aware stage, so the relativity is tempered by an "objective" scientific, psychological and ethical standpoint as is acknowledged the fact that committing intercourse with children, is more risky and may harm them. however that is also an acknowledgment that healthy adults children romance and sexual attraction is possible if both parties especially the adult is benevolent and responsible. 

[Majed]

@Leo Gura what do you think ?

[Leo Gura]

Demonizing pedophilia is wrong, but at the same time we cannot allow adults to have sex with children where the age gap is like 10+ years, as that is very harmful to the children and their inexperience will absolutely get exploited.

That adults can exploit children is not a construct. The construct is that non-mainstream sexual tendencies are wrong or evil in some moral sense.

Edited May 18 by Leo Gura

[Majed]

@Leo Gura yes i agree, but isn't this from a relativistic perspective for the well being of the children. from an absolute perspective, God can enjoy exploiting children, and that's what we see in reality. to be at peace with pedophilia you have to acknowledge the absolute perspective that in the end whether children are exploited or not there are no difference. just making that mental acknowledgement makes a difference in a persons mind, it makes the mind more mature and wiser i would say. 

[Leo Gura]

From the absolute perspective nothing matters.

[Davino]

On 13/5/2024 at 4:25 PM, Majed said:

from a construct aware point of view the difference between adults and children is seen as an arbitrary construct

It is not seen as an arbitrary construction but what was thought as an immovable mountain, now is seen as a constructed building. You did some parts, society filled the gaps.

I'm also decontructing the "so-called" bad for society, it's very hard wired in our psyche due to survival and socialization. Though, it's better to do some contemplations in close doors, as the saying goes, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing

On 13/5/2024 at 4:25 PM, Majed said:

therefore pedophilia itself is a delusion in the sense that it separates reality in an arbitrary fashion when in fact it's fluid and there aren't as clear a distinction as the prior stages might think. 

If you deconstruct that bias you better deconstruct the bias of getting your little daughter ass raped by a priest. When deconstructing thorny issues you need to kill the whole snake, not only the head, it keeps moving and biting even dead, it's still lethal.

 

On 13/5/2024 at 4:25 PM, Majed said:

Therefore greater empathy towards pedophiles is reached and an acknowledgment that pedophilia points to a phenomenon in reality that is no different from regular sexuality.

Empathy is great but be careful on what grounds.

The problem with Pedophilia is that there are a lot of ramifications to take into consideration, it's not just a one time act, it's a whole mind paradigm and thinking style, a unique twist in egoic mind, all constructed by the Pedophile's Mind.

The same way we construct that having sex with our own children or family is unacceptable and ilegall. In the past it was common practice, even among the highest elites, to mantain the royal lineages.

On 13/5/2024 at 4:25 PM, Majed said:

people who demonizes pedophiles are seen as fools and barbarians who need to develop themselves towards higher cognition and ways of interacting with the world, nature and other. 

Discernment is a sharp tool, as you cut you get cut, for the one who searchs Truth in all domains is like a traveller walking on a razor's edge.

On 13/5/2024 at 4:25 PM, Majed said:

biology still comes into play at the construct aware stage, so the relativity is tempered by an "objective" scientific, psychological and ethical standpoint

You better deconstruct first science, phychology and ethics deeply than getting inside the mud.

On 13/5/2024 at 4:25 PM, Majed said:

however that is also an acknowledgment that healthy adults children romance and sexual attraction is possible if both parties especially the adult is benevolent and responsible. 

that's how you would do it?

 

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

From the absolute perspective nothing matters.

From the absolute perspective everything matters.

[LSD-Rumi]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

From the absolute perspective nothing matters.

What does God do in its absolute form? Is he just there sitting in bless there forever?

[RendHeaven]

35 minutes ago, LSD-Rumi said:

What does God do in its absolute form?

Cosplays your life

[Juan]

1 hour ago, RendHeaven said:

Cosplays your life

The Ultimate Comic-Con.

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, LSD-Rumi said:

What does God do in its absolute form? Is he just there sitting in bless there forever?

There is no God sitting around somewhere watching anything. Energy is appearing as form out of no-thing which is Absolute. Anything can appear and we have labelled having sex with children pedophilia. That nothingness appears as that. There is no Absolute form. The Absolute is formless. It is the child, it is the pedophile. 

[Someone here]

30 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

There is no God sitting around somewhere watching anything.

And how exactly are yo so goddam sure about that? Have you been to the very edges of the universe and beyond? Did you study the cosmological argument or the ontological argument? 

[caspex]

Demonizing pedophilia would be acting like a sheep, but I wouldn't call it 'wrong'. It's the right thing to do, because I do not want to live in a society where pedophilia is normalized. You might argue there is a grey area, and you would like to live in a society that is more aware of pedophilia and would help these people out without demonizing them, but that's a fantasy. Demanding that is demanding a stage Yellow society which is a very big ask. It's so far into the future that it's not worth discussing right now. Therefore I believe it to be the right move to demonize pedophilia, because the masses move in terms of extremes and not greys, and I like the current side of the extreme better than the other side. Once society enters the grey, the pendulum is bound to swing all the way.

As for pedophilia itself, I don't believe that anybody is simply born a pedophile as if it's a sexual orientation. You become a pedophile due to circumstance and habits. One way, that I believe is quite common, is through porn. Most of us do not get affected by this, but some keep going deeper down the rabbit hole and before they know it, they are into kids. I believe it takes years but it happens. There view of sexuality gets so deconstructed they do not care now if it's a kid or not. Look, you can deconstruct your sexual orientation to a point where you are attracted to stone or a table, that does not mean you should do that, the same applies to kids.

[Nemra]

@caspex 

How do you know if someone is a pedophile?

[caspex]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@caspex 

How do you know if someone is a pedophile?

Honestly I couldn't tell just by looking at someone.

[Majed]

@caspex i liked your comment ! thanks !

[Majed]

@Leo Gura do you agree you can "deconstruct your sexual orientation" ? that would explain why most people are straight even though they can be gay and ties in nice with the philosophy we do here. if you can deconstruct your sexual orientation then leo you haven't done that yet if you're only attracted to women. recommend you start out your deconstruction by being attracted to males, then maybe animals or children, or whatever a table or a chair. no but seriously is this really how it works ? in my experience i would say yes that's how it works. 

[Princess Arabia]

54 minutes ago, Someone here said:

And how exactly are yo so goddam sure about that? Have you been to the very edges of the universe and beyond? Did you study the cosmological argument or the ontological argument? 

You're right. So I'll say, I have not seen you before my eyes, don't know if you're really there, don't know about a Universe either, know nothing about cosmological whatever and ontological whatever. Just words on a screen as far as i'm concerned. All I can see is what's here around me at the moment.

So there could well be a God somewhere looking at me. He can stay there as far as i'm concerned. Not interested in his hide and seek games if he's there watching me. Kinda creepy if ya ask me.

[James123]

3 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

So there could well be a God somewhere looking at me. He can stay there as far as i'm concerned. Not interested in his hide and seek games if he's there watching me. Kinda creepy if ya ask me.

For you now, nothing real except my sentences, because you are reading them. 

[Princess Arabia]

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

For you now, nothing real except my sentences, because you are reading them. 

Don't know about that either. 

[ivankiss]

 

Fisting the fractured fetus!
Squeezing the life out of the baby!