Nivsch

UN admits civilian casualities in Gaza are close to HALF of what it thought

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11 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I apologize for the insensitive analogy; I hadn't considered that this could be a trigger when the Hitler comparison came to mind. Anyway, at no point did I trivialize the evils of the Nazi regime; that just wasn't relevant to the argument I was trying to make.

Don't worry it wasn't that triggering but just not an honest analogy in general to anything Israel or other western country too does. Nothing personal about you. Just this analogy always appears and getting cheapened when belongs to a totally different world. I appreciate your answer. I agree with you that Netanyahu behaves badly in his retorics and in how he manages this war.

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On 2024-05-18 at 2:26 PM, Nilsi said:

I apologize for the insensitive analogy; I hadn't considered that this could be a trigger when the Hitler comparison came to mind. Anyway, at no point did I trivialize the evils of the Nazi regime; that just wasn't relevant to the argument I was trying to make.

   What? What are you apologizing for? I don't think you've been that insensitive for arguing this point:

On 2024-05-18 at 1:42 PM, Nilsi said:

This is your head of government btw:

We're at a point where anything short of aggressively revolting against your government should be considered participation in these disgusting crimes against humanity, yet you have nothing better to do than argue over how many tens of thousands of innocent civilians your government has killed since October 7th? This is way past the obedience of authority and "banality of evil" we saw in Nazi Germany. This is just blatant participation and backing of genocide.

 

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13 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Nilsi

   What? What are you apologizing for? I don't think you've been that insensitive for arguing this point:

 

I’m all for complex arguments, but I realized that a conversation with a Jew is not the appropriate context for overly subtle and relativistic arguments about Hitler that could easily (and understandably) be misinterpreted. That’s why I apologized for being insensitive.


“Did you ever say Yes to a single joy? O my friends, then you said Yes to all woe as well. All things are chained and entwined together, all things are in love; if ever you wanted one moment twice, if ever you said: ‘You please me, happiness! Abide, moment!’ then you wanted everything to return!” - Friedrich Nietzsche
 

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10 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I’m all for complex arguments, but I realized that a conversation with a Jew is not the appropriate context for overly subtle and relativistic arguments about Hitler that could easily (and understandably) be misinterpreted. That’s why I apologized for being insensitive.

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@Nilsi

24 minutes ago, Nilsi said:

I’m all for complex arguments, but I realized that a conversation with a Jew is not the appropriate context for overly subtle and relativistic arguments about Hitler that could easily (and understandably) be misinterpreted. That’s why I apologized for being insensitive.

   So just because of their self identity you do not want complex arguments with them, even simple ones? Even a simple conversation? I don't get it, it's not like a face to face interaction here. Have you been reported and false flagged? Hate mail? Don't be scared and report them back if they bully you! You cannot let yourself be afraid if they wrongly call you anti semite and try to silence you! You have a right to voice your opinion here, just not in a name calling and demonizing way or dogmatic way.

   In fact that Nazi Germany's Adolf Hitler and Israel's Benjamin Netayahu of the Likup Party, an ultra far right Zionist party, is a justifiable comparison becuase both leaders used genocidal rhetoric in similar ways. In fact if you read the bible and look in history in that region, as far back as the worship of Moloch, that region is like a hellish trap of sacrificing children, burning them alive over some fantasy god they worship. In fact the the valley of Hinnom, named in the New Testament in Greek form (from the Hebrew Ge Hinnom, meaning “valley of Hinnom”), Gehenna originally was a valley west and south of Jerusalem where children were burned as sacrifices to the Ammonite god Moloch.

 

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On 2024-05-15 at 5:46 PM, Nivsch said:

The responsibility and the occasionally foolish way our government deal with this sophisticated guerilla organization wasn't denied.

   It was. What are you talking about?

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   This was a complete mess:

   What was missed in all that freaking shouting, was that even the Likud party discriminates against Arab Jews and even Arab Christians. In fact anything resembling Arabs they racially discriminate, that is alt right Zionism for you! I wonder how Bob would feel if he really knew how deeply racist Likud party is towards even Arab Christians too, and how he would feel when some of those Christians he calls brothers and sisters were caught in the cross fire? How they freaking bombed even a church killing some Arab Christians and other Palestinian civilians just to get to 1-2 HAMMAs members?

   But hey, overall good debate and you got to condemn both sides and be able to.

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