Fear of Hooking Up with a Trans

[QVx]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

The majority of people are not interested in dating trans people. There is nothing inherently wrong with what he said.

Being condescending and manipulative only makes your cause look bad.

That’s correct, but there is nothing inherently right with what he has said.

It’s clear to any conscious person that there is an air of double standards; that one must meet one here, without oneself taking any steps.

 

[bebotalk]

Liking trans women isn't gay. Even if said person is pre-op or non-op and still has male genitals. 

Generally, men who like trans women are attracted to femininity. Said people won't be attracted to men, as they too obviously would have a penis.

 

[StarStruck]

Her throat will give it away. 

His genitals can be pimped but it is hard to pimp away the Adam’s apple and male voice. 

I don’t think she is a he though. Some women have big hands and male type of body. 

Perhaps she has a messed up vag and she pimped it up. 

Edited May 13 by StarStruck

[Basman]

8 hours ago, QVx said:

That’s correct, but there is nothing inherently right with what he has said.

It’s clear to any conscious person that there is an air of double standards; that one must meet one here, without oneself taking any steps.

Double standards don't matter in the context of sexual preferences. No one is owed a relationship and you don't have the right to demean or belittle someone's choice to not date someone regardless.

[QVx]

On 13/05/2024 at 9:25 PM, Basman said:

Double standards don't matter in the context of sexual preferences. No one is owed a relationship and you don't have the right to demean or belittle someone's choice to not date someone regardless.

Double standards suddenly don’t apply? Colour me blue  

Equally no right is owed nor given for someone’s choice to treat another in contempt when they don’t align with their preferences.

[Adrian colby]

@blessedlion1993 my wife started dating me and then married me without knowing the specifics of my condition ( gonadal disgenesis which comes under the gender incongruency umbrella. I contain both male and female biological factors, some genetic, some neurological and some physical but I am unrefutably a man ) . When I asked her about it she said, the only difference between before and after knowing was a ‘word’ or term that I didn’t identify with anyway so it made absolutely no difference. I was the person she met as of her direct experience at that time which was unquestionably mentally and socially male and no story that anyone would tell her about me from the past could change the reality of of who and what I was to her at that moment. That has never changed (although having gone through awakening, my personality has.)
 

she also pointed out that as I wasn’t involved with the trans or lgbt community that I hadn’t taken on their cultural mannerisms or behaviours. The whole point was to get treatment and integrate back into society to get on with life in peace, not to create an outlandish identity removed from conventional roles. I don’t identify as trans. I have no childhood trauma or mental illness and I don’t discuss it with anyone as it doesn’t exist in the perception of daily life. As my wife says, it is now just a story that doesn’t reflect the reality of the moment and doesn’t exist until it is conceptually created in the mind of another person by telling a story about it. 

 

if you meet me, I’m just a guy. Everything is normal. If I suddenly tell you a story about myself from the past, your perception based on your own preconceived ideas change and your behaviour toward me changes as well. The only thing that doesn’t change is me. 
 

you do not know if you have or have not got any sex specific biology unless you test yourself for it. There are men out there who are born with xx chromosomes (the sry genes are on the other x) and you wouldn’t know and they wouldn’t know unless it came up on a test. Most people are nothing but appearances because that’s all you interact with anyway. What your worried about is social perception but if no one knows and it doesn’t have any adverse effect then what’s the problem?
 

my wife ( this is unrelated to me) has difficulty with  comfortable sex due to dryness and small vagina. This stems from being a small person, intimacy issues from childhood because of cold emotionally unsupportive parents and past abusive sexual relationships( and quite possibly now the menopause) . If I turned around and expressed concern about her gender because of my difficulty fingering or sleeping with her… I’d bet I would be deserving of a punch in the face for it and quite rightly so. 
 

she has said to me before she’s worried she’s not normal, that her bits don’t seem to be working properly but to be honest I think she’s perfectly normal and just not good at dealing with even subtle stresses and lacking in self confidence. It’s not an indication of a gender disorder

your basically projecting your fears onto someone and creating a situation where you are the victim and blaming them for it instead of taking responsibility for your own perspective of your perceptions. Remember perception and perspective are not the same, one is thwarted  by bias and doesn’t reflect the other truthfully. 

 

[Schizophonia]

On 11/05/2024 at 6:59 PM, NoSelfSelf said:

@josemar We not gonna do that 🤦‍♂️

lol

On 13/05/2024 at 2:56 PM, bebotalk said:

Liking trans women isn't gay. Even if said person is pre-op or non-op and still has male genitals. 

Generally, men who like trans women are attracted to femininity. Said people won't be attracted to men, as they too obviously would have a penis.

 

lol x2

 

funny topic

[Basman]

3 hours ago, QVx said:

Double standards suddenly don’t apply? Colour me blue  

Equally no right is owed nor given for someone’s choice to treat another in contempt when they don’t align with their preferences.

Honestly, your English is kinda bad and I struggle to comprehend what you mean exactly. But I get that you're obnoxiously self-righteous and passive-aggressive. These are not the traits of someone who really believes what they say and I know that because you'd be mad if someone ignored your preferences and tried to gaslight you over it.

On 13/05/2024 at 2:56 PM, bebotalk said:

Liking trans women isn't gay. Even if said person is pre-op or non-op and still has male genitals. 

Generally, men who like trans women are attracted to femininity. Said people won't be attracted to men, as they too obviously would have a penis.

You are still having sex with a biological male and on average there is no getting away from that for most transwomen bodies, especially if they have a penis. You can call it not-gay if you want but its still a lot more gay than a biological woman.

[Schizophonia]

6 minutes ago, Basman said:

 

You are still having sex with a biological male and on average there is no getting away from that for most transwomen bodies, especially if they have a penis. You can call it not-gay if you want but its still a lot more gay than a biological woman.

I think sexuality is essentially a question of gender.

 

Edited May 15 by Schizophonia

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

lol

lol x2

 

funny topic

He's right in what he said. 

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:

He's right in what he said. 

Yes. I'm not saying the opposite.

[Basman]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

I think sexuality is essentially a question of gender.

No it doesn't. Sexuality is innate. It being a question of gender implies that it is an identity and therefor can be changed over time.

Case in point; asexuality.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Basman said:

. Sexuality is innate.

Reproduction and survival is innate and inherent, not human's carnal nature about sexuality. The body doesn't care about human's pleasure principles. It's only care is to reproduce and to survive.

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, Basman said:

No it doesn't. Sexuality is innate. It being a question of gender implies that it is an identity and therefor can be changed over time.

Case in point; asexuality.

No, I meant that what made me straight is more my attraction for the attributes that make me think of feminity than reproductive organs and "biological sexe" in general.

 

As Andrew Tate has said "Do you prefer Megan Fox with a dick, or Hulk Hogan with a pussy ?" 

  

Edited May 15 by Schizophonia

[Yimpa]

You overcome transphobia just like any other phobias; ultimately coming to the realization that your mind is full of deceptions / traps 

[QVx]

8 hours ago, Basman said:

Honestly, your English is kinda bad and I struggle to comprehend what you mean exactly. But I get that you're obnoxiously self-righteous and passive-aggressive. These are not the traits of someone who really believes what they say and I know that because you'd be mad if someone ignored your preferences and tried to gaslight you over it.

If you struggle to comprehend what I mean then how can you get that I’m obnoxiously self-righteous and passive-aggressive?

Is this forum not a place for people to seek understanding, to seek new perspectives, and to be open to the fact their views may be limited; a place where one may be humbled.

I would be mad, however my anger would be placed firmly at my own feet for lacking the consciousness to understand.

[Basman]

On 15/05/2024 at 7:26 PM, Schizophonia said:

No, I meant that what made me straight is more my attraction for the attributes that make me think of feminity than reproductive organs and "biological sexe" in general.

As Andrew Tate has said "Do you prefer Megan Fox with a dick, or Hulk Hogan with a pussy ?" 

An extreme example.

Gender and sex is interchangeable for the majority of the human population. If you see someone like Megan Fox walking around you are not going to to assume that she has a dick.

On 15/05/2024 at 3:47 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Reproduction and survival is innate and inherent, not human's carnal nature about sexuality. The body doesn't care about human's pleasure principles. It's only care is to reproduce and to survive.

The act of reproduction is innate. Reproducing off-spring is nearly tertiary on an instinctual plane. Evidence of that is that sex itself is a need. Having children is not a "need".

Considering that homophilia and necrophilia exist, not only among humans but also certain other animals, is also evidence of that. There are plenty of documented cases of gay animals and animals don't have an identity which they build their reality around (and having gay sex isn't "reproductive" to be clear). It is instinctual to act out reproduction.

23 hours ago, QVx said:

I would be mad, however my anger would be placed firmly at my own feet for lacking the consciousness to understand.

No one thinks like this.

[Schizophonia]

8 minutes ago, Basman said:

An extreme example.

Gender and sex is interchangeable for the majority of the human population. If you see someone like Megan Fox walking around you are not going to to assume that she has a dick.

Transexuals peoples are marginals anyway.

All I've said is that I wouldn't consider sleeping with one gay.  

[bebotalk]

On 15/05/2024 at 0:35 PM, Basman said:

Honestly, your English is kinda bad and I struggle to comprehend what you mean exactly. But I get that you're obnoxiously self-righteous and passive-aggressive. These are not the traits of someone who really believes what they say and I know that because you'd be mad if someone ignored your preferences and tried to gaslight you over it.

You are still having sex with a biological male and on average there is no getting away from that for most transwomen bodies, especially if they have a penis. You can call it not-gay if you want but its still a lot more gay than a biological woman.

But then actual biological males don't turn on most trans-attracted men. therefore it's straight. 

[QVx]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

No one thinks like this.

Well then, I must be the most wise person to have ever existed.