Seek and you shall never find !

[Princess Arabia]

40 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

We are Born to be Seekers, most everything we do is about Seeking, Seeking to be More than what You are right now, Seeking Success, Money, Power, Spiritual Enlightenment, Knowing, not Knowing, its all there... Seeking is akin to Desire, if You have No Desire, there is no Life, when You read a post and want to answer and do answer, that is Desire in Action.. Only those that Experience absolute Oneness and Completeness have no Desire, and that is when Seeking stops, for most ppl that is when they disembody and no individuality remains, only higher ups, Guru's, Masters of all sorts can stay on with a body and function here on this plane!

In some sense I agree with this and in some I don't. It's OK. I'm just saying. I don't think OP was referring to this type of seeking though. Some masters and gurus are still seeking. Seeking an audience. I mean, we can interpret seeking in all sorts of ways. I'm pretty sure most of us have an idea what OP is referring to; but we want to play word games and beat around the message. 

[hyruga]

Why would you seek the end of seeking?

Like what Razard86 said, you will still seek regardless. 

That's the end of what I want to say.

[Ishanga]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

In some sense I agree with this and in some I don't. It's OK. I'm just saying. I don't think OP was referring to this type of seeking though. Some masters and gurus are still seeking. Seeking an audience. I mean, we can interpret seeking in all sorts of ways. I'm pretty sure most of us have an idea what OP is referring to; but we want to play word games and beat around the message. 

If the Guru is a true Guru, then for sure they are "Seeking" an Audience, that is the whole point, they want to help as many ppl as they can while here... The problem is we compare to what was done in the old days, and expect this generation of Guru's and such to function in the same manner, this applies to words and what was being said too, and the methods used as well, all of it can still work today as it did back then in the past, but ppl are wired a bit differently today than before, even within my life span things have changed allot, so the Guru has to adapt, play circus with ppl to get ppl just curious, and when those that are curios choose to seek and go forward in a committed way then the real stuff comes out, until then its jus circus, and circus is everywhere in this world today...

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, hyruga said:

Why would you seek the end of seeking?

This is what we're ultimately after, The end of the misery and suffering that is a by-product of the separate self. We seek to end the "l", which cannot help but seek to reconnect to the whole. It is unaware that's what it's actually seeking. Why do you think there's so much misery and suffering in the world. The individual cannot help but to seek, it's a function. It's not really separate, though, but only in it's individual dream.

[Princess Arabia]

5 minutes ago, Ishanga said:

If the Guru is a true Guru, then for sure they are "Seeking" an Audience, that is the whole point, they want to help as many ppl as they can while here...

A real Guru would recognize there's no one to help because this is Absolute. Absolutely perfecto!! What's needed is for people to recognize wholeness. Completion. No separate self. Then work from there. 

[Ishanga]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

A real Guru would recognize there's no one to help because this is Absolute. Absolutely perfecto!! What's needed is for people to recognize wholeness. Completion. No separate self. Then work from there. 

I agree that ppl need to recognize wholeness and completion, no separate self and such, that is where the Guru's and others are of help in different ways.. The thing with Human Beings is that it is complex yet simple at the same time, from an Absolute perspective its seems simple, but from a Gross Perspective from the Ground looking up its more complex, and nuanced, this is the whole game of Karma, first ppl have to deal with their unconscious tendencies and conditioning, that is complex, at the same time they have to live their lives, make a living and raise families and such things, so the world right now is not set up for one to recognize oneness/completeness and such experiences of Absolute!

So Guru's have to step by step bring one to more stability within themselves, first deal with everyday emotions, awareness of what is around them and within themselves, unconscious things becoming conscious, basic stuff, then they can go from there, its hard work for the Guru and frustrating I would imagine, that is why they are Blissful of their own nature, it makes it work better for them and others around them:)

[Salvijus]

The cause for seeking is perception that you're lacking something. 

The end of seeking is realization that wholeness is the nature of existence. 

It just so happens that this realization comes only if awareness is heightened. And for awareness to be heightened energy needs to be invested on it. Because it feeds on energy. The process of transforming Jing to chi to shen cannot be escaped. Mental masturbation cannot bring about that realization. 

Edited May 1 by Salvijus

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

Haters gonna hate, lovers gonna love, seekers gonna seek, Until they don't.

The fool who persists in his folly will become wise. 

- William Blake -

[Princess Arabia]

30 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

Haters gonna hate, lovers gonna love, seekers gonna seek, Until they don't.

The fool who persists in his folly will become wise. 

- William Blake -

.....and Jesus gonna bazook.

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

21 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

.....and Jesus gonna bazook.

[Someone here]

Spiritual seeking is not what you (ego/mind) seek. It's the energy inside you when it wants to reach its imagined destination(reality is endless so there is no destination). And realization of this is what these neo advaita  folks call liberation ..Moksha and Nirvana .

Normally spirituality begins when you realize you are unhappy with something in your life. When you don't find a sense of meaning in your life. When certain events cause you to turn inwards and forcing you to confront the reality of the world...and make you question what is real happiness? What the hell am I Donig in this existence? The journey begins by that question..and continues on until you realise its futile to have the answer because reality is so fucking profound and infinite to fit into your little human chimp mind .

[gettoefl]

i seek and don't find since i need to define what i want to find

i better meditate for a while on what is worth finding

alas my ego believes what can be found is never ending in quantity and quality

perhaps i need to deal with my ego first and seek if it actually has any reality

that's some seeking i can get behind

behold i seetheking at last

[Francis777]

18 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Why wouldn't I, I literally said Consciousness seeks itself. Knowledge is self-recognition. Consciousness seeks to recognize its being in infinite ways. 

So how can anything be excluded? So by default I am too. It doesn't matter if I deny it or admit it, Consciousness has a nature to it and part of it is to seek itself.

Even solitude is seeking. You are seeking an experience of solitude. Consciousness does not need to create anything, so if it is here it is because it has willed it to be.

you know what I meant..

[VeganAwake]

When ya get down to the brass tacks, its just apparent energy experiencing separation and lack!!

Self reflection: 

-Who is seeking and feels lack?

-Who is looking for the end of seeking?

-Who feels like a separate individual?

❤️ 

[Salvijus]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

Self reflection: 

-Who is seeking and feels lack?

-Who is looking for the end of seeking?

-Who feels like a separate individual?

❤️ 

These questions are wack.

Better questions would be 

- What causes the sense of lack? 

- Where the motivation to end suffering comes from? 

- How the sense of otherness come about? 

[Razard86]

20 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

What's the correlation with these statements and "everybody here is seeking attention". Is Consciousness seeking attention?

Of course, what do you think appearance is? It seeks to recognize itself in experience. That means it seeks to experience itself as other. So it seeks attention, which is observation. It's simple.