Islam = the biggest cult in the world

[Danioover9000]

   Correct me if I'm wrong, but would this event be an example of Islam coltishness?

 

[tvaeli]

  I think they are just quite young religion - Islam is 1400 years old, christianity some 2000 years, judaism 3500, buddhism some 2500, but now with many connections to older religions, hinduism some 5000-6000 (but Buddhism has a strong connection to this, and took this experience into account).

As a youngest religion, relatively Islam is 600 years younger than christianity - at that age, christianity had crusades, the first pope was starting his job, and the inquisition was about to be established. We can see there were no atheist ideas, not much philosophy and it was very radical following of God.

Judaism seems to have less problems, around this age they were fighting free from slavery and building their first systematized codecs. Still I think it was more traditional and dogmatic period; Kabballah was emerging around this time, which is probably their newer and more enlightened form?

[Danioover9000]

@tvaeli

47 minutes ago, tvaeli said:

  I think they are just quite young religion - Islam is 1400 years old, christianity some 2000 years, judaism 3500, buddhism some 2500, but now with many connections to older religions, hinduism some 5000-6000 (but Buddhism has a strong connection to this, and took this experience into account).

As a youngest religion, relatively Islam is 600 years younger than christianity - at that age, christianity had crusades, the first pope was starting his job, and the inquisition was about to be established. We can see there were no atheist ideas, not much philosophy and it was very radical following of God.

Judaism seems to have less problems, around this age they were fighting free from slavery and building their first systematized codecs. Still I think it was more traditional and dogmatic period; Kabballah was emerging around this time, which is probably their newer and more enlightened form?

   True, so generally Islam is the youngest orthodox religion, next is Christianity, next is Judaism, then Buddhism is next although Confucianism/Taoism maybe earlier, Hinduism technically being the oldest, but actually Zoroastrianism is THE OLDEST RELIGION BY FAR, with some paganist religions in between Zoroastrianism and Hinduism.

   Yes, Christianity had the crusades but for good reasons why the Pope and Catholics wanted it to happen:

  

 

 

[Schizophonia]

A while ago, I was looking here and there on YouTube Short and I regularly came across imams.
It was often basically "According to x hadith, if you turn three times quoting x recitation after the prayer you earn 10 hassanates!"

It doesn't sound like something high-minded and intelligent in general, which is reason enough to be wary of typical Sunni Islamic orthodoxy.
In other words, the Islam of most practitioners.

[Twentyfirst]

OP should study history.

Islamic rulers have always been less abusive with power than Western. Most dictators and tyrants have come out of the West and then ended up killing their own populations. What you see in the Middle East now isn't that accurate of the mindset because now they are just desperate and willing to do anything to get invaders (Western nations) off their lands. Don't forget how western nations reacted after their lands were invaded (9/11 and oct 7). 

Islam is the future thankfully. If other religions want to compete they will have to compete and not just cry about it. Atheism included 

Development doesn't mean that you guys are good people. The atomic bomb is a highly developed invention but that doesn't mean they are smart for building it. I think you guys get impressed by shiny objects too much. Everyone in the world knows that Americans are very easily brainwashed to believe anything. Islamophia is one of those things 

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[Twentyfirst]

Let's not forget that you guys have a huge dating and mating problem. Along with a birth rate problem. Why are the people who don't even have the basic natural functions trying to judge others? Maybe you guys should figure out step ONE before moving onto other steps. I know every ancestor before me some of ya'll don't even know your OWN DADS!!!! But you can keep your iPhones and fast food technologies and hold onto them as tightly as you can hahaha. Truth hurts!

Edited April 30, 2024 by Twentyfirst

[Harikrishnan]

5 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

OP should study history.

Islamic rulers have always been less abusive with power than Western. Most dictators and tyrants have come out of the West and then ended up killing their own populations. 

Idi amin, Sadam, Gaddafi. are few from last 25 years. There where many more in past if you look at Indian subcontinent, iraq. Etc

[Twentyfirst]

13 minutes ago, Harikrishnan said:

Idi amin, Sadam, Gaddafi. are few from last 25 years. There where many more in past if you look at Indian subcontinent, iraq. Etc

How many people did they kill? How many of other nations did they destroy? 

[Twentyfirst]

12 minutes ago, Ayham said:

@Twentyfirst Sorry, your post screams unconsciousness and egocentrism, your viewpoint is the not the problem, just the way you are handling it, try to cultivate understanding rather than judgement.
I am Arab too but I think this is just silly, there are pro's and con's, Western society did the right step of removing religion, but they didn't put anything in it's place to guide people, so most people are lost, while we are still following religion blindly.
The next step for the west is education system and teaching people to make their own principles, values, and meaning, because all those fell apart for most people when religion was removed.

 

Your post is egocentric. You automatically assume that removing religion was correct and you assume that everyone is on the same page as you. You don't like it when people bring religion to you but I am supposed to like it when you bring atheism to me? 

They did replace religion already. Woke, feminism, LGBTQ, government, money, independence (selfishness), and pleasure are the new religions. Am I wrong? 

[Twentyfirst]

Before asking the Middle East to let go of things (religion, extremism, dogma) maybe the West should let go of all its problems first

[Nemra]

@Twentyfirst touch some grass

[Twentyfirst]

Just now, Nemra said:

@Twentyfirst touch some grass

All I need is sand

[Nemra]

@Twentyfirst clever

[Twentyfirst]

Just now, Nemra said:

@Twentyfirst clever

 

[Nemra]

@Twentyfirst 

Just know that religion is neither the beginning nor the end and the act of believing something doesn't belong to religion.

[Twentyfirst]

2 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@Twentyfirst 

Just know that religion is neither the beginning nor the end and the act of believing something doesn't belong to religion.

People need religion. People outside this forum. Or else it wouldn't be there. Just because you advanced beyond training wheels doesn't mean we should take them off for everyone. Also remember that if someone wants to be muslim then that is their right and you have the option of minding your own business 

Just know that The West is only 15% of the entire world and theres a lot more understanding to be known outside of your hypocritical bubble 

[Nivsch]

48 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

Woke, feminism, money, independence (selfishness), and pleasure

Those are sort of religions too. LGBTQ is not a choice, however.

47 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

maybe the West should let go of all its problems first

Why not both at the same time? 😝

14 hours ago, An young being said:

one where equality, compassion, gratitude, selflessness and love takes the center stage, religions will either disappear entirely or lose their relevance completely,

But how life will be interesting without conflicts? I think non violent conflicts will ever be, and religion too just in higher versions.

[LSD-Rumi]

@Leo Gura Arab people were more developed than the west in the Islamic golden age.

I think you are overrating the impact of geography> Btw, most Arab didn't live in the desert as the media likes to portray.

The real reason behind Muslims underdevelopment is that they lost their momentum in the last couple of decades. The same thing happened to the Maghoul empire and some African dynasties.

[Bobby_2021]

14 minutes ago, LSD-Rumi said:

@Leo Gura Arab people were more developed than the west in the Islamic golden age.

I think you are overrating the impact of geography> Btw, most Arab didn't live in the desert as the media likes to portray.

The real reason behind Muslims underdevelopment is that they lost their momentum in the last couple of decades. The same thing happened to the Maghoul empire and some African dynasties.

There is more to the story.

Back in the middle ages, the best place in the world to inhabit was the middleast. The temperate zone (area between the equator and the artic circle) was harsh cold.

But as we invented efficient heating systems, the scenario reversed. Now the temperate zones became much more conducive to business and trade. 

It's not just geography but how we deal with it. 

[Sucuk Ekmek]

Hmm, I think ones opinions are the biggest cult in the world.