What is knowledge, what is meaning?

[Razard86]

15 hours ago, James123 said:

Where is the self?

Self is construction, so appearance is self, which is the same as saying experience is self. 

[Razard86]

15 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

There are two types of knowledge, acquired knowledge, which is false, and direct knowledge, which is true. When you know something within your conceptual structure it is a structure created by the mind, and it is false. When you know something because as the reality that you are, that knowledge is manifest, direct and inevitable, it is true.

The difference between true and false is the difference between real and unreal. You know what you really are, or what you have to do in your life, you simply have to let that knowledge flow unhindered by structured acquired knowledge. When true knowledge flows, your approach to the direction of your life will be total, seamless, and your understanding will be too. It doesn't mean that you are omniscient, means that your understanding is real, is the reality 

Acquired knowledge is not false. The ability of a thing to be true is inherent that it exists. Truth is integrity. Falsity is lack of integrity. If something cannot continue to exist after inquiry then that is the limit of its truth.

This means limit=falsity. And lack of limit =truth. So you judge how true something is based upon its limit.

So for example if you created an explanation that explains something as long as that explanation aligns with what is happening that is equal to how true it is.

The moment it fails to align, that is where it is in error, which is to say it is false. This is a very important understanding. If you cannot grasp this, then you cannot ever develop discernment.

First there is One truth.

From that truth springs infinite relative truths. A relative truth has limits and its limits are its falseness, this is what is meant by reality is an illusion. 

Reality is an illusion because it pretends to have limits. Reality is really unlimited and that is the one truth. 

Edited April 28 by Razard86

[James123]

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Self is construction, so appearance is self, which is the same as saying experience is self. 

Any experience is an illusion.

[Razard86]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Any experience is an illusion.

When did I say otherwise? I have learned that your bias is too strong that you delude yourself into arguing with yourself.

Have fun debating yourself. Since you are seeing things that aren't there.

[James123]

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

When did I say otherwise? I have learned that your bias is too strong that you delude yourself into arguing with yourself.

Have fun debating yourself. Since you are seeing things that aren't there.

Eyes don't see anything. You are the moment.

[Breakingthewall]

22 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Acquired knowledge is not false. The ability of a thing to be true is inherent that it exists. Truth is integrity. Falsity is lack of integrity. If something cannot continue to exist after inquiry then that is the limit of its truth.

This means limit=falsity. And lack of limit =truth. So you judge how true something is based upon its limit.

So for example if you created an explanation that explains something as long as that explanation aligns with what is happening that is equal to how true it is.

The moment it fails to align, that is where it is in error, which is to say it is false. This is a very important understanding. If you cannot grasp this, then you cannot ever develop discernment.

First there is One truth.

From that truth springs infinite relative truths. A relative truth has limits and its limits are its falseness, this is what is meant by reality is an illusion. 

Reality is an illusion because it pretends to have limits. Reality is really unlimited and that is the one truth. 

It depends on what meaning you give to true or false. For example, if you think: reality is infinite. It could be said that it is true knowledge since it aligns with the truth, but it is false in that it is a finite mental construction.

Opening yourself now to reality and perceiving its infinity is true knowledge, since it is a direct perception that reality has of itself. The difference is not in the content but in the level of knowledge

[Razard86]

32 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

It depends on what meaning you give to true or false. For example, if you think: reality is infinite. It could be said that it is true knowledge since it aligns with the truth, but it is false in that it is a finite mental construction.

Opening yourself now to reality and perceiving its infinity is true knowledge, since it is a direct perception that reality has of itself. The difference is not in the content but in the level of knowledge

We  could simplify it and say truth is alignment because truth is direct. Falsity is indirectness, which is how truth tricks itself.

Infinity is paradoxical because it has the ability to be indirect. It has the ability to hide itself from itself using awareness, which is how it limits itself. 

It limits itself by dumbing down its ability to sense what is happening.

Edited April 29 by Razard86

[Breakingthewall]

8 hours ago, Razard86 said:

We  could simplify it and say truth is alignment because truth is direct. Falsity is indirectness, which is how truth tricks itself.

Agree, truth is what is direct. The truth is what exists, the interpretation, or thought exists, therefore it is the truth, but what the thought says is not the truth, but an attempt to describe the truth. It is indirect, and therefore only valid if its origin is direct truth. If its origin is another indirect interpretation it is useless. Anyway, a moment should arrive when we don't need indirect interpretation anymore 

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Agree, truth is what is direct. The truth is what exists, the interpretation, or thought exists, therefore it is the truth, but what the thought says is not the truth, but an attempt to describe the truth. It is indirect, and therefore only valid if its origin is direct truth. If its origin is another indirect interpretation it is useless. Anyway, a moment should arrive when we don't need indirect interpretation anymore 

Well yeah that moment is death of individuality. I do believe there are beings that have transcended individuality en masse. They have some people who channeled Aliens and they said they have what is called a social memory complex. 

Here is ChatGPT's breakdown of what the Ra material says a social memory complex is.

a social memory complex is a unified group consciousness formed by highly evolved beings who have transitioned beyond individuality to exist as a collective entity. Here are some key points about the social memory complex:

Unified Consciousness: In a social memory complex, individual identities are merged into a unified consciousness. Each being retains its unique experiences and perspectives, but these are integrated into the collective awareness of the group.

Evolutionary Progression: The Ra Material describes social memory complexes as the eventual evolutionary path for highly evolved civilizations. As beings progress spiritually and intellectually, they may choose to transition from individualized consciousness to collective consciousness.

Harmonious Cooperation: Within a social memory complex, there is harmonious cooperation and shared purpose among its members. Each being contributes to the collective knowledge, wisdom, and creativity of the group.

Expanded Awareness: Beings within a social memory complex have access to a vast reservoir of knowledge and understanding beyond what is accessible to individual minds. This expanded awareness allows for deeper insights and greater clarity in decision-making.

Service-Oriented: Social memory complexes are often depicted as being service-oriented, with a focus on assisting other beings in their evolutionary journey. They may offer guidance, support, and inspiration to less evolved civilizations.

Gradual Transition: The transition from individual consciousness to a social memory complex is described as a gradual process that occurs over many lifetimes or cycles of experience. It requires a high level of spiritual development and a willingness to surrender personal identity for the greater good.

Unity and Diversity: While social memory complexes operate as unified entities, they also value diversity and individual expression. Each being within the complex contributes its unique perspective and talents to enrich the collective experience.

Overall, the concept of a social memory complex offers a fascinating exploration of the potential evolution of consciousness and the nature of collective existence beyond the limitations of individual identity.

Now I haven't verified whether this is true from direct experience, but it could be true...I just don't know with any certainty.

[bambi]

Conciousness is Gods reflection actually

[Razard86]

6 hours ago, bambi said:

Conciousness is Gods reflection actually

What do you think self-recognition is? Can't have a reflection in your experience if you can't recognize it.