Why does pain exist?

[UnbornTao]

We don't understand what pain itself is.

First, what is it, then why is it? 

Edited April 26 by UnbornTao

[MellowEd]

21 hours ago, Someone here said:

Why hell is part of absolute infinity ?

Because your soul is eternal. You are made in the image of God.

Since God is only good He is rightseous and mercifull.

Those who do evil with an unrepentant heart should fear his rightseousnes.

[MellowEd]

21 hours ago, Someone here said:

why isn't reality 100% pleasure?

Because God created everything good but humans used it to do bad. 

In Paradise there is no pain. 

 

Justice for sinning against an infinite Holy God without asking for mercy is eternal destruction in hell away from His Glory. 

The harvest is plentifull but the workers are few. Most souls are lost forever.

[Princess Arabia]

19 minutes ago, MellowEd said:

Most souls are lost forever.

Hmmm, I wonder why. Lost forever doesn't even make sense. If I got lost coming home, wherever I end up for the next 50yrs I guess I'd still be lost. My old home done changed tennants like 50x but I'm still lost trying to get back there... forever.

[MellowEd]

3 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Hmmm, I wonder why. Lost forever doesn't even make sense. If I got lost coming home, wherever I end up for the next 50yrs I guess I'd still be lost. My old home done changed tennants like 50x but I'm still lost trying to get back there... forever.

You are not your body.

You don't have any energy to move in hell. 

[Hojo]

@Bandman There is only life. But life isnt the body . Its just being alive and you cant die.

Edited April 26 by Hojo

[Leo Gura]

4 hours ago, UnbornTao said:

We don't understand what pain itself is.

First, what is it, then why is it? 

The why is easier than the what in this case.

People who don't experience pain die young. This is scientific fact, not just speculation.

Edited April 26 by Leo Gura

[MellowEd]

35 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The why is easier than the what in this case.

People who don't experience pain die young. This is scientific fact, not just speculation.

True.

Pain is good. 

[UnbornTao]

On 26/04/2024 at 10:37 PM, Leo Gura said:

The why is easier than the what in this case.

People who don't experience pain die young. This is scientific fact, not just speculation.

Perhaps, but we also take our experience of pain at face value. For all we know, we could be talking about something else, like our idea of it.

Why experience pain when your car is scratched or your phone stolen?

Not all pain is necessary or useful, and yet we keep generating it in abundance.

Maybe pain exists similar to how a mirage exists. Grasping this would transform how we relate to pain and provide an experiential understanding of its purpose. But I'm extrapolating at this point.

Edited April 28 by UnbornTao

[sgn]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

The why is easier than the what in this case.

People who don't experience pain die young. This is scientific fact, not just speculation.

An exception:

 

[Someone here]

On 26/04/2024 at 4:55 AM, Leo Gura said:

It's so simple: without pain you'd be dead.

And why is life better than death?

Still doesn't answer the question.

After along time experiencing pain and depression over and over again for many years and also trying to suicide I realise that sometimes we don't  want to die..it's more like we want to end the pain. So pain is worse than death .therefore sometimes death is better than living a miserable life

.and sometimes  life is very fucking paniful . Your digestive disease is a lil taste . Some people like @Buba got it really fucked up.

 

Edited April 27 by Someone here

[Someone here]

On 26/04/2024 at 7:54 PM, UnbornTao said:

We don't understand what pain itself is.

First, what is it, then why is it? 

a bad feeling in the body .

[UnbornTao]

10 minutes ago, Someone here said:

a bad feeling in the body .

What does bad mean, and where specifically in the body? Can it be precisely located or are its boundaries somehow undefined/unclear? And what criteria is used for determining its degree? Is it compared to other part of your body that isn't hurting, or that is hurting less?

A feeling belonging to a similar domain as, say, boredom or enthusiasm? Or is it perhaps something more fundamental?

Edited April 27 by UnbornTao

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

@Someone here

Y'know, I've read somewhere that life isn't a problem to be solved but a mystery to be lived.

So live the mystery, and stop trying to solve the problem.

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, UnbornTao said:

What does bad mean

Go look it up in the dictionary. 

2 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

and where specifically in the body?

 Could be Any part . Tooth ache ..stomach ache ..testicles ache ..etc

3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

A feeling belonging to a similar domain as, say, boredom

Yup.

[Someone here]

@Bazooka Jesus why so unserious?

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

Just now, Someone here said:

@Bazooka Jesus why so unserious?

Why not?

[Someone here]

Just now, Bazooka Jesus said:

Why not?

Because What people who don’t suffer from depression or extreme physical condition like @Bubadon’t seem to understand how physically painful it is. It feels walking around with a broken heart every day all day . So stop judging and criticising while living a cushy luxurious life ..go to Africa or see Palestinians suffering.  

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

4 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Because What people who don’t suffer from depression or extreme physical condition like @Bubadon’t seem to understand how physically painful it is. It feels walking around with a broken heart every day all day . So stop judging and criticising while living a cushy luxurious life ..go to Africa or see Palestinians suffering.  

And how does brooding over this type of stuff 24/7 make it better?

If you want to do something about it, then do something about it. Asking why bad stuff exists doesn't make it go away.

 

Edited April 27 by Bazooka Jesus

[UnbornTao]

On 27/04/2024 at 11:34 PM, Someone here said:

Go look it up in the dictionary. 

You take a look.

Does "bad" come with the sensation?

Are you comparing the sensation to other parts of your body?

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 Could be Any part . Tooth ache ..stomach ache ..testicles ache ..etc

Where does it start and stop? 

What about degree? Which criteria is used for determining degree of pain?

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Yup.

It is more fundamental than that. Emotions such as anger and fear can be broken down into components, while pain can't.

Edited April 29 by UnbornTao