Do you think life has intrinsic right to exist

[StarStruck]

I had this discussion with my therapist and she couldn’t give me a good answer. Neither could anybody else with whom I had a discussion about this topic. In my opinion there is no way to answer this question in a secular way.

For something to be alive it has to earn to be alive. There are no rights without duty. You have duty to god to express its divinity in human form. And as long as you don’t and start doing decadent and sinning (acting without God in mind you prematurely come to an end. ) For example people who have substance abuse, cheat, lie bad eating habits, misuse sex or any other sin they commit against god, they die horribly without exception. 

Life is fleeting. Humans are no different than a rose. It has its time to blossom and it’s time to fade away. I think “rights” humans construct. Nothing has the right to live. You have to earn your place as in the survival of the fittest. This principle is still active whether or not you are an employee or business owner, and this principle counts in dating too.  Nobody owes you anything. Especially god doesn’t owe you anything. People don’t get god. 

[Schizophonia]

What is the objective of your topic?
It seems like you are trying to convey your despair, when people are energetically disappointed they tend to adopt a pseudo very pragmatic, even cynical, aesthetic posture.

You claim to be "super-yang" here and there lol, but the truth is that you are looking for masculinity (tacitly energy abundance/low stress, I think?). The fact is you need a therapist, gurus like tate, seminal retention, and now you're making this thread that tacitly signals a scarcity mentality.
It's anything but yang.

Maybe if you were more deliberately "yin", like playing games, having lots of friends, going to parties etc, it would reduce the stress and make you strong for real.
I don't see how someone can be well surrounded and suddenly start ruminating about the right to life, the law of the strongest and so on as if it were a real subject.

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

What is the objective of your topic?
It seems like you are trying to convey your despair, when people are energetically disappointed they tend to adopt a pseudo very pragmatic, even cynical, aesthetic posture.

You claim to be "super-yang" here and there lol, but the truth is that you are looking for masculinity (tacitly energy abundance/low stress, I think?). The fact is you need a therapist, gurus like tate, seminal retention, and now you're making this thread that tacitly signals a scarcity mentality.
It's anything but yang.

Maybe if you were more deliberately "yin", like playing games, having lots of friends, going to parties etc, it would reduce the stress and make you strong for real.
I don't see how someone can be well surrounded and suddenly start ruminating about the right to life, the law of the strongest and so on as if it were a real subject.

Lol

[Princess Arabia]

No wonder the therapist couldn't answer. She's probably saying to herself, the audacity of you saying I need to earn my way to live. She's probably also saying, you need to earn your way to pay me for my time much less live.

[Schizophonia]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

No wonder the therapist couldn't answer. She's probably saying to herself, the audacity of you saying I need to earn my way to live. She's probably also saying, you need to earn your way to pay me for my time much less live.

This is why I prefer Sadhguru over Tate.

Sadghuru is real masculinity 

[StarStruck]

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

No wonder the therapist couldn't answer. She's probably saying to herself, the audacity of you saying I need to earn my way to live. She's probably also saying, you need to earn your way to pay me for my time much less live.

She was insulted. 😭

[Schizophonia]

Chadguru doesn't need a big cigar, a bimbo, fighting in a cage at the risk of ending up in a wheelchair like a modern slave to exist.
He walks in love with his daughter in the peace because of interior engineering as if he were high on cannabis between two motocross sessions. 

 

Edited April 24 by Schizophonia

[StarStruck]

18 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

What is the objective of your topic?
It seems like you are trying to convey your despair, when people are energetically disappointed they tend to adopt a pseudo very pragmatic, even cynical, aesthetic posture.

You claim to be "super-yang" here and there lol, but the truth is that you are looking for masculinity (tacitly energy abundance/low stress, I think?). The fact is you need a therapist, gurus like tate, seminal retention, and now you're making this thread that tacitly signals a scarcity mentality.
It's anything but yang.

Maybe if you were more deliberately "yin", like playing games, having lots of friends, going to parties etc, it would reduce the stress and make you strong for real.
I don't see how someone can be well surrounded and suddenly start ruminating about the right to life, the law of the strongest and so on as if it were a real subject.

The whole thing about life is a good balance between yin and yang. 

I feel like I already have a good amount of yin in my life. Yesterday I went to a party and had the time of my life. And this morning I was depressed about existential stuff and that is ok.  

Perhaps you use partying and those other yin stuff to cover up the shit in your life. I prefer to just face it instead of trying to cover it up with partying and games. People who do that hit the wall later in life when they found out life is not only about fun and games. 

[abrakamowse]

3 hours ago, StarStruck said:

For something to be alive it has to earn to be alive.

What is alive is alive because it just "is"... it was always like that. Not need to earn anything. The way you say it sounds like life has a beginning, so you have to earn it to have it... but the thing is life is eternal. There's no time, nothing it just always existed so it doesn't need to earn anything to be what it already is.

Edited April 24 by abrakamowse

[Schizophonia]

2 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

The whole thing about life is a good balance between yin and yang. 

I feel like I already have a good amount of yin in my life. Yesterday I went to a party and had the time of my life. And this morning I was depressed about existential stuff and that is ok.  

Perhaps you use partying and those other yin stuff to cover up the shit in your life. I prefer to just face it instead of trying to cover it up with partying and games. People who do that hit the wall later in life when they found out life is not only about fun and games. 

Honestly, I don't have a good handle on this yin/yang thing so I'm not going to continu on it.👍

[StarStruck]

1 hour ago, abrakamowse said:

What is alive is alive because it just "is"... it was always like that. Not need to earn anything. The way you say it sounds like life has a beginning, so you have to earn it to have it... but the thing is life is eternal. There's no time, nothing it just always existed so it doesn't need to earn anything to be what it already is.

Life has no beginning and no end? I know couple of people's beginning and their ends. Open up the newspaper and you will see beginnings and ends of lives all the time.

Edited April 24 by StarStruck

[Someone here]

@StarStruck all living beings are a mistake in evolution by natural selection. You are decaying every single day and getting close to the grave ...but because you feed your body you stay alive.  If you were a rock you would decay faster because rocks have inertia.  You have no right to live ..because your life depends on other creatures' life . Life is a design of a sadistic motherfucker. 

[abrakamowse]

6 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Life has no beginning and no end? I know couple of people's beginning and their ends. Open up the newspaper and you will see beginnings and ends of lives all the time.

You are talking about the life of the characters in the movie of Life. You think that when your body "dies" (the body doesn't die in reality, it gets transformed and it goes back to earth to continue being a living part of the universe) so you won't be there because you are "dead".

Well, you are life. Life is everywhere and is infinity and it never ends. Life = Consciousness

Life doesn't stop and it will never stop.

Edited April 24 by abrakamowse

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, StarStruck said:

She was insulted. 😭

Nah, therapists have tougher skins than that. They see the mentally challenged everyday and expect the worst and can handle it. It's probably because she never heard such a thing and was taken aback saying I thought I done heard it all. Lol

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Chadguru doesn't need a big cigar, a bimbo, fighting in a cage at the risk of ending up in a wheelchair like a modern slave to exist.
He walks in love with his daughter in the peace because of interior engineering as if he were high on cannabis between two motocross sessions. 

 

No guru is going to record their tumultuous life circumstances for the public. Don't be fooled by appearances. He's still just a regular person who just happens to embody the energetic field around his differently.

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

No guru is going to record their tumultuous life circumstances for the public. Don't be fooled by appearances. He's still just a regular person who just happens to embody the energetic field around his differently.

He does have a pretty cute daughter though. 

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

He does have a pretty cute daughter though. 

If you say so. He's not bad looking himself. I can see through that beard and turban. Very handsome man.

[StarStruck]

18 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

No guru is going to record their tumultuous life circumstances for the public. Don't be fooled by appearances. He's still just a regular person who just happens to embody the energetic field around his differently.

Like that Eckhart Tolle guy. His daughter revealed how he drinks a lot of alcohol and some other shady stuff. Sadguru seems like a really nice guy. There has to be something we don’t know about him. 

[StarStruck]

27 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Nah, therapists have tougher skins than that. They see the mentally challenged everyday and expect the worst and can handle it. It's probably because she never heard such a thing and was taken aback saying I thought I done heard it all. Lol

Probably. 
 

 

1 hour ago, abrakamowse said:

You are talking about the life of the characters in the movie of Life. You think that when your body "dies" (the body doesn't die in reality, it gets transformed and it goes back to earth to continue being a living part of the universe) so you won't be there because you are "dead".

Well, you are life. Life is everywhere and is infinity and it never ends. Life = Consciousness

Life doesn't stop and it will never stop.

you are just repeating what Leo says and Leo is repeating what others said. I don’t know if that is true. Consciousness works in mysterious ways. It could all end. It is up to god. 

[Nemra]

3 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

His daughter revealed how he drinks a lot of alcohol and some other shady stuff.

Now that's enlightening!