Question for Leo about deconstruction

[Bogdan]

Usually when I have a question, before asking it here I contemplate and find the answer on my own. But with this one I feel I could use some guidance.

So from what I understand now, we have two sides to our work - direct consciousness or Awakening, and then we have deconstructing survival, climbing up the ladder of SD, the 9 stages, becoming integral thinkers, right?

So I would like to ask you Leo:

1. Could you give some pointers of the main techniques of deconstruction?

2. What are more powerful questions I can be asking myself about this subject?

What I've been doing lately aside from studying you, Ken Wilber and the 9 stages is reminding myself multiple times a day of Solipsism, how every perception is created by infinite Love and Intelligence, but I feel I can take things to a more organized & structured next level.

[Bogdan]

One thing that comes up is that I just need to trip more. I moved to a different country so I have access to psychedelics.

Another is working on the different gaps I have in the quadrants from Integral Theory and the 9 stages. Because even though I say I am studying them, I haven't done it to a high standard yet, if I'm honest, and I am not satisfied with that.

But aside from these things, I wanted to get feedback from you @Leo Gura from your current view on this, cause I feel there might be some thing that I'm omitting, that might be obvious to you from the way I'm speaking.

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Bogdan said:

Usually when I have a question, before asking it here I contemplate and find the answer on my own. But with this one I feel I could use some guidance.

So from what I understand now, we have two sides to our work - direct consciousness or Awakening, and then we have deconstructing survival, climbing up the ladder of SD, the 9 stages, becoming integral thinkers, right?

So I would like to ask you Leo:

1. Could you give some pointers of the main techniques of deconstruction?

2. What are more powerful questions I can be asking myself about this subject?

What I've been doing lately aside from studying you, Ken Wilber and the 9 stages is reminding myself multiple times a day of Solipsism, how every perception is created by infinite Love and Intelligence, but I feel I can take things to a more organized & structured next level.

 

[Bogdan]

@Razard86 thank you <3 

I know this, and I connect to this direct experience daily.

But I see that God wants to play mind games, that's why it constructs.

So within the game of Growth, parallel to Awakening, how do I make sure I am actually growing my spiritual intelligence, besides learning, contemplating, meditating, growing a business and relationships, etc.

Or are these even the questions I should be asking?

Edited April 22 by Bogdan
Feedback to what was said

[Razard86]

9 minutes ago, Bogdan said:

@Razard86 thank you <3 

I know this, and I connect to this direct experience daily.

But I see that God wants to play mind games, that's why it constructs.

So within the game of Growth, parallel to Awakening, how do I make sure I am actually growing my spiritual intelligence, besides learning, contemplating, meditating, growing a business and relationships, etc.

Or are these even the questions I should be asking?

In one sense God wants to play mind games because it constructed the ego, but in another sense....only the ego wants to play mind games.

If you want to know if you are growing here are some examples: 

Also you need to have a profound understanding of these two videos.

This goes with Love part 2 video. 

 

 

[Razard86]

And you need to deeply contemplate what is Self Love/Universal Self Love.

 

[Razard86]

Don't let any Neo Advaita person suck you into the "there's nothing to do it's all just an appearance." This is one of the most ignorant takes you can have. You really think an Infinite Mind that could be doing ANYTHING, really designed all of this....so you throw it all away? I mean...you can....but do you know how much of a waste that is? It's like I give you the fastest car in the world, and you park it in a garage. I'm like....what was the point of me giving you that masterpiece if you weren't going to use it.

Now Ultimately God doesn't care if you do nothing with the gift, but paradoxically God does care through you. Anyway I forgot to mention...you need to learn to embrace paradox so watch this stuff as well.

 

[Razard86]

Also if you go far enough in this work, MENTALLY "YOU" has to die. It will be reborn as just a concept if you go far enough. This will create an existential crisis if you are successful. Because it will contradict your entire life so far. Understand the following:

1. Oneness has Radical Consequences. I'll save that for later.

2. You need to have a mystical experience that reveals the strange loop/paradoxical nature of reality to you. We like to call it mind fucked (because that is how it will feel) you need to be mind fucked out of dualistic thinking which is the same as going Meta. 

An example of meta.....picture you were playing a video game as Mario. You actually thought for some reason you were Mario and not the human playing Mario. You would have to go Meta, to leave that identity and become the human playing the game. So...in the same way you need to go Meta in your perspective...to understand that you are God. 

[Bogdan]

@Razard86 I saved them in a playlist, I will re-listen to them. Thank you! <3

I will do a solo Ayahuasca trip tonight as well.

@Leo Gura I would still love your feedback on this, or if you feel like giving me some guidance for my trip tonight.

[Razard86]

15 minutes ago, Bogdan said:

@Razard86 I saved them in a playlist, I will re-listen to them. Thank you! <3

I will do a solo Ayahuasca trip tonight as well.

@Leo Gura I would still love your feedback on this, or if you feel like giving me some guidance for my trip tonight.

Don't be getting tricked into not realizing that Mother Ayahuasca isn't you, and isn't your creation now.

I won't go any further than that clue.

[Bogdan]

Ok so I re-listened to the 9 stages of ego development part 2 episode for the 10th or 15th time or even more probably, and again, I'm just blown away by how much there is to unpack there.

It's the first time I actually understood that I'm at the beginning of the strategist stage.

Whereas before, for the last 3 years my ego was just slowly finding it's calm within the storm of confusion of it's Pluralist stage, THINKING it is surely at least Construct-Aware, still shook by the rapid growth and powerful awakenings this beautiful, talented mind has had in the last 5-6 years or so.

The initial post I wrote in a frustrated moment, since I started studying Ken Wilber seriously for the first time, and was confused as to why I'm so far behind on the 4 quadrants.

So I reached out to Leo to save me, lol which I am very grateful that he didn't respond, because I had this feeling of wasting his time, since he answered these questions so many times, and has explained them so well in his content. So just a quick apology for that, sir.

I now understand that part of the deep tiredness I was feeling, was due to my ego constantly reaching for the higher stages, EXACTLY how Leo describes at the begining of The 9 Stages Part 3.

Oh, the self-judgement turning into Love. So beautiful. I wasn't lazy, I was going TOO fast! (for MY personal situation)

Now I can also see how my ego was doing this for the idea of being Leo's best student, because THEN something something, survival bla bla bla. Where, that doesn't make sense anymore, as Leo is MY MIND. My dream, My Creation, My Love, My Intelligence.

And now, Life Purpose truly starts. Only now true balance can even begin to form.

Just like in the pandemic, when I realized that I have zero doubt that Reality is Infinity (which was a couple of years AFTER the mystical experience that showed me that, mind you), now I'm seeing the dream clearly for the first time.

I'm starting to awaken. For the infinitieth time. This never gets old, lol.

@Razard86, I was open to everything you said, and I will rewatch those videos, but this above was what I was asking about. I feel like you didn't meet me where I was at, and just got excited to throw some theory at me, which I already know very well.

Anyway, I am grateful for this forum and for Leo, and for my Self, dreaming this fucking incredible dream.

How amazing that I Am! I Love You! Gonna go prepare for Ayahuasca now