Nothing will make you happy

[Salvijus]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

It doesn't matter if I'm aware of that or not. 

It doesn't matter. Yes. But if you were aware of it. It would reflect itself in your actions. But you're not aware of the truth. It's just something you arrived at with your intellect. 

 

Edited April 22 by Salvijus

[UnbornTao]

Happiness will make you nothing!

 

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I say it once and say it again the self is its own curse period

Seemingly so. There is no self that is cursed because there is no actual self. It isn't really actually cursed. The I thought, the contracted energy, can dream itself to be cursed but the dream isn't real, it's not actually happening just like your nightly dreams aren't really happening but you don't know that while emersed in the dream. 

[Princess Arabia]

10 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Yes it doesn't matter. But if you were aware of it. It would reflect itself in your actions. But you're not aware of the truth. It's just something you arrived at with your intellect. 

 

You're still thinking there is someone with an intellect that arrived somewhere. There's no need for the Absolute to be anything other than what it is. That what you just said here is dependent on there being a someone that sees something that needs to change in order for there to be a recognition that the Absolute is everything. It can't happen because that is also the Absolute. The intellect is also the Absolute. If I was to try and behave differently, that would also be it acting differently. 

[Salvijus]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

That what you just said here is dependent on there being a someone that sees something that needs to change in order for there to be a recognition that the Absolute is everything

Recognition that absolute is everything is not done by the "someone".. It is Life that becomes more aware of itself. 

But in some bodies it happens to a deeper degree than others. And one's behavior shows how much awareness of the truth is in a particular body or "person" (for lack of a better word) 

Edited April 22 by Salvijus

[Carl-Richard]

37 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The word "means" means nothing. So your statement also means nothing.

No.

[Sugarcoat]

37 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Seemingly so. There is no self that is cursed because there is no actual self. It isn't really actually cursed. The I thought, the contracted energy, can dream itself to be cursed but the dream isn't real, it's not actually happening just like your nightly dreams aren't really happening but you don't know that while emersed in the dream. 

Might be true absolutely but as long as I feel real , words like that don’t manage to shake that sense unfortunately , despite being open to it

[UnbornTao]

On 21/04/2024 at 11:43 PM, Carl-Richard said:

I assert we can only assert what we think it is, using whatever frame we prefer. It's not a matter of absolute knowledge.

This sounds to me as "I don't know what it is."

Edited April 23 by UnbornTao

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

No.

Go ask a baby what does the word "means" mean. Good luck. Ask an adult they will tell you what they learnt what "means" mean. It's learnt. Doesn't mean anything. Go ask a tiger, ask a giraffe, ask a man who cannot read or write. It only has meaning to someone who has made an interpretation of the word. An interpretation is not actual. 

[Razard86]

2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Go ask a baby what does the word "means" mean. Good luck. Ask an adult they will tell you what they learnt what "means" mean. It's learnt. Doesn't mean anything. Go ask a tiger, ask a giraffe, ask a man who cannot read or write. It only has meaning to someone who has made an interpretation of the word. An interpretation is not actual. 

An interpretation IS actual. Because it is what is. If an interpretation was not actual, you couldn't interpret. You couldn't write the sentence you just wrote if an interpretation wasn't actual. The only reason the baby and the giraffe and tiger cannot interpret language is because that is not part of their functionality. 

A tiger can eat raw antelope and survive, a human cannot. Your example is like denying that eating raw meat is not actual because you cannot do it but a tiger can. You are literally using interpretation, language, to deny interpretation as actual, and you are assuming he can interpret your language while telling him interpretation doesn't exist.

And this is why I said without a mystical experience and careful understanding of paradox you will lack understanding. Yet you stubbornly hold on to your falsities and contradict yourself. There is a correct contradiction, and there is a false contradiction. How do you know which is, is which? Does it hold up under its own integrity? Can you resolve the contradiction? If you cannot resolve it, then it is not true. Reality is an ordered chaos, you are speaking the language of chaos order. You are in reverse. You speak chaos while using the order which is language. Then deny you are doing it, which is more chaos. You need to have sufficient order to speak the language of chaos.

 

Edited April 23 by Razard86

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

An interpretation IS actual. Because it is what is. If an interpretation was not actual, you couldn't interpret. You couldn't write the sentence you just wrote if an interpretation wasn't actual. The only reason the baby and the giraffe and tiger cannot interpret language is because that is not part of their functionality. 

A tiger can eat raw antelope and survive, a human cannot. Your example is like denying that eating raw meat is not actual because you cannot do it but a tiger can. You are literally using interpretation, language, to deny interpretation as actual, and you are assuming he can interpret your language while telling him interpretation doesn't exist.

And this is why I said without a mystical experience and careful understanding of paradox you will lack understanding. Yet you stubbornly hold on to your falsities and contradict yourself. There is a correct contradiction, and there is a false contradiction. How do you know which is, is which? Does it hold up under its own integrity? Can you resolve the contradiction? If you cannot resolve it, then it is not true. Reality is an ordered chaos, you are speaking the language of chaos order. You are in reverse. You speak chaos while using the order which is language. Then deny you are doing it, which is more chaos. You need to have sufficient order to speak the language of chaos.

 

True

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

An interpretation IS actual

I never said that this is going to speak and make sense at all times. Most of what you said I agree with, not all but most. Doesn't negate the fact that what is, is, and that there's Noone that actually does anything because there's no one. 

[Razard86]

17 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I never said that this is going to speak and make sense at all times. Most of what you said I agree with, not all but most. Doesn't negate the fact that what is, is, and that there's Noone that actually does anything because there's no one. 

Oh yeah....explain it. Because I predict you will deny the existence of something. And what I am telling you, that means you have not fully awakened. Even Tony Parsons won't deny the existence of something. He will just say its an apparent something. The only thing he denies is the existence of God. And that is because he is not conscious that he is God. Or why we use the term God to begin with.

Then you got James123 or whatever his name is denying the existence of God and denying creation even though evidence for all of that is all around us. You and many others are not aware of what's going on. Reality is a mind game of identity. Since everything is ONE, to maintain an identity of seperation you have to DENY some aspect of Reality. So the only way to discover ONENESS is you have to break out of your identity and that involves first denying the identity. But then to grow your awareness you have to rebuild your identity and ACCEPT everything. To ACCEPT everything is to exclude NOTHING.

So what does this mean? It means you must aim to understand ALL perspectives. If you understand all perspectives....then nothing is denied. I know why you speak as you do, I know why James speaks as he does, but you do not know why I speak as I do. As such you have a particular bias you are trapped in.

You deny something, but you ACT as if something exists. How do we know? Because you are on the forums typing and responding. This means you are LYING to yourself, you have created a belief system that denies your reality. This is called Gaslighting. You are gaslighting yourself which is what happens when you create a belief system. How do we know its a belief system? Because in your direct experience....you are typing, and that means there IS SOMETHING. SOMETHING IS NOTHING!!!! Depending on which conscious state you are in, it will be felt as more Something or more Nothing. It's BOTH.

The moment you lean either way....you are lost. The teachings are meant to exaggerate because you are very attached in an exaggerated way. But the funny thing is, they just cause some people sometimes to just become exaggerated on Nothing out of fear of ever falling into delusion again. You need to have the courage to connect and feel for something again. You only lost motivation because you disconnected yourself from all that is. You need to go back to embracing all that is and reconnect to it as Nothing and then you will discover IT IS SOMETHING. And..that...is LOVE.

Edited April 23 by Razard86

[Javfly33]

11 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Trap?. There's no trap. If anything the trap is believing there's a trap. You guys are all contradicting yourselves and don't even realize it. Then again you're all not doing it because there's no one doing anything. It's funny how everyone knows about advaita but me. If I fell so deep into the so-called advaita trap, whats the difference between you and me, We're still on a forum talking shit, still going to bed and waking up. Still eating and taking dumps, still burping and belching, and sneezing and coughing, and working and listening to music and saying hi to people and shopping and watching TV and yt and whatever else we do. 

Apparently.

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Where are you headed that I'm not, other than physically going to a building and vacationing and partying and where ever else you go. Tell me. I would love to hear. Where are you going where I'm not. Aren't you going to seemingly age and die like everyone else or get hit by a bus or get a terminal disease. Isn't your body going to rot just like mine, or is mine going to end up in the Advaita Trap. Huh, tell me, tell me. 

I´ll tell ya. While you are entertaining your energies and focus with this narratives I am investing Consciousness every day so one day i will no longer be a human.

I might get hit by a bus and die, or I might one day leave the body and dissolve permanently with Infinity. Consciously. Because the work I´m doing does not come from watching youtube videos, you don´t understand what the human body is capable of and the possibility of this device to untie all the knots that bind you to the physical hallucination.

Your narratives won´t untie any real knots. 

Edited April 23 by Javfly33

[Guest Bazooka Jesus]

7 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Apparently.

7 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

While you are entertaining your energies and focus with this narratives I am investing Consciousness every day so one day i will no longer be a human.

What's so bad about being human?

[Javfly33]

48 minutes ago, Bazooka Jesus said:

What's so bad about being human?

@Bazooka Jesus Is not bad per se but It comes with certain limitations.

At one point in the path the limitations feel suffocating for the Unlimited Being. 

[Princess Arabia]

36 minutes ago, Javfly33 said:

At one point in the path the limitations feel suffocating for the Unlimited Being. 

That suffocation automatically comes with a sense of "I". A "Me". Always. Period. End of Story. It's just how strong of a suffocation that contracted energy feels like in the dream, because it's not really happening. Only seems and appears to happen.

[Princess Arabia]

8 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

Apparently.

I´ll tell ya. While you are entertaining your energies and focus with this narratives I am investing Consciousness every day so one day i will no longer be a human.

I might get hit by a bus and die, or I might one day leave the body and dissolve permanently with Infinity. Consciously. Because the work I´m doing does not come from watching youtube videos, you don´t understand what the human body is capable of and the possibility of this device to untie all the knots that bind you to the physical hallucination.

Your narratives won´t untie any real knots. 

Just about everything, every word here Implies a doing, a future and something hoping and wishing for. Would you say there's no past and no future. What do you think that means. If you say there's a past and a future can you point me to it please. Either way, both cannot be found, so good luck.

 

[Someone here]

@Princess Arabia been reading /listening/watching Jim Newman..Tony Parsons ..Anna Brown as of late ?

[Princess Arabia]

13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

I predict you will deny the existence of something. And what I am telling you, that means you have not fully awakened

Nothing here claimed to be or awake. No one awakens because there's no one asleep, there's no actual person inside these bodies to awaken and there's nothing actually happening to cause an awakening. That's a dream.

 

13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Then you got James123 or whatever his name is denying the existence of God and denying creation even though evidence for all of that is all around us. You and many others are not aware of what's going on. Reality is a mind game of identity. Since everything is ONE, to maintain an identity of seperation you have to DENY some aspect of Reality. So the only way to discover ONENESS is you have to break out of your identity and that involves first denying the identity. But then to grow your awareness you have to rebuild your identity and ACCEPT everything. To ACCEPT everything is to exclude NOTHING.

James's apparent denial is you making sense of what seemed to happen. Evidence cannot be found in Aliveness and what is seemingly appearing because the evidence would also be aliveness and what is seemingly appearing. There are no others and there's no others to be aware of anything going on because what's going on is also what's appearing to be others not aware of what's going on. It's only an appearance. Everything is not one because one suggests there's an opposite. Infinite is more appropriate. Everything you've described in the latter part of this phrase is a call to action of a doer. There is no doer. Only thing that can seem to happen is the individual can lose it's sense of self and apparently recognize there was no self to begin with and there was never a personal identity.

 

13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

So what does this mean? It means you must aim to understand ALL perspectives. If you understand all perspectives....then nothing is denied. I know why you speak as you do, I know why James speaks as he does, but you do not know why I speak as I do. As such you have a particular bias you are trapped in.

There's Noone speaking as they do. Speaking is just simply happening. I don't know why you speak as you do because there is no one here to know. Being trapped in a bias is illusory.

 

13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

You deny something, but you ACT as if something exists. How do we know? Because you are on the forums typing and responding.

There's just simply responding. There's a response that seems to happen due to the contracted energy in the body that comes with it a knowing that someone typed and then a response becomes imminent. It's just what happens.

 

13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

This means you are LYING to yourself, you have created a belief system that denies your reality. This is called Gaslighting. You are gaslighting yourself which is what happens when you create a belief system. How do we know its a belief system? Because in your direct experience....you are typing, and that means there IS SOMETHING. SOMETHING IS NOTHING!!!! Depending on which conscious state you are in, it will be felt as more Something or more Nothing. It's BOTH.

"This means" is you giving meaning to what happened and means nothing. It only means something to the one putting meaning behind it. "Lying to yourself" is suggesting there is a self and that that self can lie to itself. There is no self. There is no Reality, it's just what is and what is, is nothing appearing as something. There is no such thing as direct experience, only seemingly so, because it requires an experiencer to have an experience and there is no one that experiences. That's the dream. "Felt" is only apparent because there is no one to feel anything, the energy of feeling arises and the dreamer claims it as theirs.

 

13 hours ago, Razard86 said:

The moment you lean either way....you are lost. The teachings are meant to exaggerate because you are very attached in an exaggerated way. But the funny thing is, they just cause some people sometimes to just become exaggerated on Nothing out of fear of ever falling into delusion again. You need to have the courage to connect and feel for something again. You only lost motivation because you disconnected yourself from all that is. You need to go back to embracing all that is and reconnect to it as Nothing and then you will discover IT IS SOMETHING. And..that...is LOVE.

One cannot be actually lost because there's nothing to be found. All there is, is wholeness and whatever seems to be lost is also wholeness and completion. The Absolute appearing as someone that seems to be lost. All you're describing in the latter are just stories. Stories about separation, what courage seems to look like, what fear seems to appear as. No connection has been actually lost even if it appears that way so there's nothing to do as far as that goes. Going back and embracing doesn't make sense since there is no going back or moving forward in what is; that would only be what is (The Absolute), appearing as going back and embracing. How can there be a discovery of what is happening. That would also be The Absolute appearing as a discovery of what already is.

Edited April 23 by Princess Arabia