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Anything We Say is an illusion

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That's it.

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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You are overthinking,things are simple.

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3 minutes ago, Zeroguy said:

You are overthinking,things are simple.

How do you know anything?

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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6 minutes ago, James123 said:

How do you know anything?

Well you are the one telling it's all illusion claiming that you know that.

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12 minutes ago, James123 said:

How do you know anything?

The better question is what is knowledge? Notice you need knowledge to read and interpret what is written here. So...how are you able to do that? 

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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2 hours ago, Zeroguy said:

Well you are the one telling it's all illusion claiming that you know that.

Then how can my sentences be true? Lol.

2 hours ago, Razard86 said:

The better question is what is knowledge? Notice you need knowledge to read and interpret what is written here. So...how are you able to do that? 

Impossible.

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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36 minutes ago, James123 said:

Then how can my sentences be true? Lol.

Impossible.

That is not an answer. You are playing mind games.

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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yes because language implies duality 

Fear is just a thought

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The illusion is not what's been said. The illusion is in the interpretation of what's been said. Reality is not an illusion. The Absolute, which is everything, including what seems to appear, is not an illusion. The I AM is the illusion. Separation is the illusion. The stories and interpretations of what's appearing is the illusion. What is, is not an illusion. Your body, the things that appear, the changes and movements, the sights, sounds, hearing, sensations are not illusions. 

The only illusion is what the I AM, the individual and the apparent person interprets from what's seemingly arising. If there was no language, there would be no world, no interpretations, no agendas, no personhood, no life, no achievements, no seeking, no....you name it. Language was invented by humans. There is only what's happening. It's only humans that have a life, an experience. Without an experiencer there's no experience, just what's happening. Which is not an illusion. Everything is apparent, which means seeming to happen. There's actually nothing happening. There's no one that anything is happening to. The mystery is what is this that is seeming to appear, and no one knows because to know implies separation and someone to know something. That's the illusion. All knowledge is illusory and what makes the dreamer seem to be having a life. There is no life, no world and no one, only bodies appearing. It's all just a mystery, but not unto itself, because there is no self. Only This, appearing as a self.

Here comes the naysayers.  

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8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The illusion is not what's been said. The illusion is in the interpretation of what's been said. Reality is not an illusion. The Absolute, which is everything, including what seems to appear, is not an illusion. The I AM is the illusion. Separation is the illusion. The stories and interpretations of what's appearing is the illusion. What is, is not an illusion. Your body, the things that appear, the changes and movements, the sights, sounds, hearing, sensations are not illusions. 

The only illusion is what the I AM, the individual and the apparent person interprets from what's seemingly arising. If there was no language, there would be no world, no interpretations, no agendas, no personhood, no life, no achievements, no seeking, no....you name it. There is only what's happening. It's only humans that have a life, an experience. Without an experiencer there's no experience, just what's happening. Which is not an illusion. Everything is apparent, which means seeming to happen. There's actually nothing happening. There's no one that anything is happening to. The mystery is what is this that is seeming to appear, and no one knows because to know implies separation and someone to know something. That's the illusion. All knowledge is illusory and what makes the dreamer seem to be having a life. There is no life, no world and no one, only bodies appearing. It's all just a mystery, but not unto itself, because there is no self. Only This, appearing as a self.

Here comes the naysayers.  

If you think the I AM is the illusion I don't know what to tell you....

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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32 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

That is not an answer. You are playing mind games.

Mind is a thought. 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Mind is a thought. 

What you don't understand is all is mind. Everything is mind. God is an eternal thought, an eternal mind. You don't know what a thought is until you discover everything is literally imaginary.

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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16 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

If you think the I AM is the illusion I don't know what to tell you....

You say the same thing but in a different way at times, The only difference is you believing you're a person, a someone that knows something. If you take that out the equation all that's being said equates to the same thing.  You're like the scientist that tries to figure out Reality unaware that it is what it's trying to figure out. All you say is fine and dandy and is also the Absolute, but there's one thing you're missing and that there is no you.

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12 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

What you don't understand is all is mind. Everything is mind. God is an eternal thought, an eternal mind. You don't know what a thought is until you discover everything is literally imaginary.

Lol. What a beautiful story. Nothing has never happened. 

"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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5 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

You say the same thing but in a different way at times, The only difference is you believing you're a person, a someone that knows something. If you take that out the equation all that's being said equates to the same thing.  You're like the scientist that tries to figure out Reality unaware that it is what it's trying to figure out. All you say is fine and dandy and is also the Absolute, but there's one thing you're missing and that there is no you.

The I AM is nothing and is always there. This is why we say you cannot really understand without a mystical experience and those who teach otherwise are deluding you and themselves.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/100903-happy-bicycle-day/

Edited by Razard86

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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Just now, Razard86 said:

The I AM is nothing and is always there. This is why we say you cannot really understand without a mystical experience and those why teach otherwise are deluding you and themselves.

https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/100903-happy-bicycle-day/

Why are you making assumptions that what was being said came from a teaching. Understanding requires knowledge and knowledge requires a person that knows something which implies separation which is what the I AM represents but only in the dream. 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Why are you making assumptions that what was being said came from a teaching. Understanding requires knowledge and knowledge requires a person that knows something which implies separation which is what the I AM represents but only in the dream. 

The I AM never disappears that was why I sent you the link of what he discovered. You are trying to grasp that which is beyond logic. The I AM is the Absolute truth. The illusion is the belief that the I AM is an illusion which is why you believe death is real. The I AM cannot die because it was never borne.

Edited by Razard86

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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4 minutes ago, Razard86 said:

The I AM is the Absolute truth.

The I AM KNOWS. The Absolute cannot be known. There is no Absolute truth only the Absolute which also includes Absolute truth. What he discovered is also a part of the Absolute. The only thing is discovery happened to no one. I'm not going to keep this up with you because it really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you say the I Am is the Absolute Truth and it doesn't matter if I say it's not. That's all the Absolute and doesn't change much. It will only be the I strengthening or dissolving and either way neither ever happened. 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

The I AM KNOWS. The Absolute cannot be known. There is no Absolute truth only the Absolute which also includes Absolute truth. What he discovered is also a part of the Absolute. The only thing is discovery happened to no one. I'm not going to keep this up with you because it really doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if you say the I Am is the Absolute Truth and it doesn't matter if I say it's not. That's all the Absolute and doesn't change much. It will only be the I strengthening or dissolving and either way neither ever happened. 

There is only Absolute Truth. You are lost in the relative.

Edited by Razard86

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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Who left the carrots out? 😮‍💨🐇🥕

Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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