'Approach thousands of women'

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, mmKay said:

@mr_engineer 3 approaches per day is 1k approaches per year and 10k over a decade of your life , it's not ridiculous. Totally  possible , and it's It's a conservative estimate of what it takes to gtfo clueless hellish hardcase newbie zone into enjoying an abundant intimate lifestyle 

 

This doesn't make sense in respect to the reason for approaching other than being successful at approaching. If you found a gf through approaching, why would one need to keep approaching. Plus at some point, gf or not, isn't there sometime in-between for interaction, dating, sex etc, 

[Princess Arabia]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

1) Not only approaching but all kinds of social interaction and dealing with women, dating, physical escalation, foreplay, sex, and relationships, inner game, confidence, humor, verbal skills, reading social situations, emotional intelligence, masculinity, and more.

2) Success in the field of dating and dealing with women. Other areas of success require other kinds of practice.

Yes, I get that, but thousands of approaches leaves no time or very little time for these things. I mean, how much time does one person have in a day, week, month, year, including other aspects of life to accomplish and get good at all you've mentioned, while accomplishing thousands of approaching. It just seems like a numbers game at this point with not enough quality interactions and development. Approaching alone doesn't help in these areas, actual interaction does, which takes time, effort and energy,

[Princess Arabia]

6 hours ago, DreamCryX said:

 

If one's dating strategy is cold approach, it does require thousands of approaches to get good at it.

I agree. Keep approaching for the rest of your life, to master the skill even better. Maybe get a masters while doing millions. When you're 80 you will have graduated with honors and receive a life-time achievement award for the art of approaching, maybe even write a book on the subject.

[Princess Arabia]

Guys it's not in the amount of approaching where the success lies. Success meaning the reason for the approach. If you're just approaching to get better at approaching, then yes; but at some point, that has to escalate into something more personal if the goal is to get personal and start interacting and to get better at your dealings with women and relationships. We are dealing with people here, not some job application where the more applications the better your chances of landing a job. When you get that job, you still have to go to work and engage in that job, even if you end up leaving at some point for whatever reason. You now have experience and can be more qualified for the next and so on. 

Thousands of approaches, whether months or years, is burnout; and by the time you get that date or relationship you will feel entitled because of the hard work that was put into all the time spent approaching without landing. Like a plane approaching the runway but never getting to land for a while due to circumstances beyond its control, then finally everybody claps and sighs with relief then you're exhausted due to anticipation of whether you'll land or not. It's the same feeling. That 999th approach that says yes, you well be too exhausted to even enjoy the times spent because all you're thinking about is the other 999th times you're going to have to put in for the next if this doesn't work out.

I say don't put numbers to it. You will get numbers and interactions, but not the quality ones you want; and it doesn't matter if it's just sex or whatever you desire from it, it doesn't matter, because you will be having sex with someone you're not attracted to just because she said yes, and now you're disappointed and low-self esteem kicks in for fearing you can't attract the type of girl you really want. Go work on yourselves inwardly and put yourselves out there and only approach women you really wouldn't mind dealing with on some level and let the ones you don't care to go by with just a mere smile or hello and small talk if appropriate.

That's my take as a female and some will say you're not a man so shut up; but this isn't rocket science as it applies to other areas as well and this is why so many men are hating on women and the pills were formed because men are burnt out and have had it with rejections and not being able to have loving relations with women because they are concentrating on the numbers game while avoiding having quality interactions for fear of the next skirt slipping by that they could potentially score with. 

Edited April 21, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[CARDOZZO]

@Princess Arabia Thanks for your POV  

[CARDOZZO]

1 hour ago, mr_engineer said:

And, what are we trying to get better at? What is the KPI of our so-called 'game'?! 

70% of game is about being confortable in your own skin in the process of being sexual/funny/social with humans (whatever your sexual orientation).

Knowing that you can give great experiences to people, share moments and add to each others lives.

[CARDOZZO]

I've heard a simple """routine""" to pickup:

• hi, laugh, laugh, laugh, walking, laugh, joke, joke, hugging, laugh, laugh, savage sex.

Edited April 21, 2024 by CARDOZZO

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

@Princess Arabia Thanks for your POV  

Guys need to start listening to women sometimes on these issues because we're the ones you're approaching and trying to date or whatever. I'm coming from a place where i'm not bitter towards men and have been approached many times in my life. I can say which ones seemed to be just a numbers game or who don't really care if I say yes or no to and those guys I tend to avoid because I can tell it won't be worth my time and energy. Not saying to not approach many times, but in the thousands is not worth it in the end if your main aim is to actually interact.

[Princess Arabia]

14 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

70% of game is about being confortable in your own skin in the process of being sexual/funny/social with humans (whatever your sexual orientation).

Knowing that you can give great experiences to people, share moments and add to each others lives.

This doesn't even have to be the case at all times because a 5min quality interaction with someone can leave a bigger, more positive impact than a 10yr relationship that was filled with bitterness and animosity towards each other. Not everybody will give you a great experience and add to your life, but the more quality engagements we have will be great experiences even if just for a brief encounter because you're not looking at that person as a number.

Edited April 21, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

 savage sex.

Sounds like a tiger ripping it's prey apart. Lol

[CARDOZZO]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Sounds like a tiger ripping it's prey apart. Lol

Do you like it?

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, CARDOZZO said:

Do you like it?

Depends on the time of day, who I'm with, how I'm feeling and how much wine consumed. 

[Dauntment]

I've said this on another thread before but Ill say it again: I have been with XX women and have NEVER approached.

You originally say why Thousands?

I say: Why approach at all?    .....  

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Dauntment said:

I've said this on another thread before but Ill say it again: I have been with XX women and have NEVER approached.

You originally say why Thousands?

I say: Why approach at all?    .....  

Because there's an agenda. In your case, you didn't have one, it just happened. Effortlessly.

[Kid A]

On 20.4.2024 at 8:55 PM, Princess Arabia said:

Approaching thousands of women can lead to disassociation and desensitization in the dating world. It's no different than what can happen with hookers and porn stars. It becomes obvious with some men that approach me that they do this with lots of women and couldn't care less if I respond or not. It becomes obvious it's a numbers game and because women are graduates and have masters degrees in feelings and have a certain sense about certain things in this department, it can have a negative impact on the men who approach in the thousands and will only attract the same type of woman, the one who is also detached from her feelings and couldn't care less about who you are as a person.

I think this is spot on.

There's also another problem with approaching too many during daytime. A friend of mine has become so good at approaching during daytime that he's now actually struggling to get results. The reason is, especially in a country like Norway (where you're not supposed to bother strangers), you really don't wanna come off as "that guy who approaches girls during daytime". If you seem too comfortable with it, girls will probably assume that they are not the first one you've approached that day, and that sure won't make them feel special and it might make you come off as a weirdo. Being shy can, on the contrary, be a huge advantage here. Especially if you're shy and confident at the same time, like it's not something you do often, but you just had to do it because she was that special. 

[Raze]

7 minutes ago, Kid A said:

I think this is spot on.

There's also another problem with approaching too many during daytime. A friend of mine has become so good at approaching during daytime that he's now actually struggling to get results. The reason is, especially in a country like Norway (where you're not supposed to bother strangers), you really don't wanna come off as "that guy who approaches girls during daytime". If you seem too comfortable with it, girls will probably assume that they are not the first one you've approached that day, and that sure won't make them feel special and it might make you come off as a weirdo. Being shy can, on the contrary, be a huge advantage here. Especially if you're shy and confident at the same time, like it's not something you do often, but you just had to do it because she was that special. 

So he can just pretend he’s shy or use a purposefully low value pick up line, Tom Torero used to do that 

[Princess Arabia]

45 minutes ago, Kid A said:

Especially if you're shy and confident at the same time, like it's not something you do often, but you just had to do it because she was that special. 

Exactly. Not so much shy as in bashful and low-self esteem, but in a non-aggressive type way. For people who read this and think a woman NEEDS to feel special in order for this to work, no. If a woman needs a guy's approval to feel special, then that's no good. What this really means is that YOU will come off as standing out above the rest. Women get approached all the time, so it's the guy that really needs to stand out and showing her that you really like HER, accomplishes that. She will remember you, she will want to talk to you and get to know you more because curiosity kicked in and she wants to know what is it about her that attracted you to her. Other factors are at play, but somewhere along those lines. Especially day time approaches. Night time also, but not so much in clubs and bars, as anything goes there; and people are drinking and are more uninhibited and poorer choices are made and regrets kick in the next day.

Edited April 21, 2024 by Princess Arabia

[Princess Arabia]

38 minutes ago, Raze said:

So he can just pretend he’s shy or use a purposefully low value pick up line, Tom Torero used to do that 

It's not always about pick-up lines. Girls just laugh at those if they're funny but doesn't really accomplish much, especially if rehearsed. Pretense of shyness can only last but so long as you will always have to be on guard that you don't turn into the opposite. No need to pretend to be shy, no need to be shy, just ordinary. Cool is always nice, I like cool, cool and easy as in easy going. 

[Consept]

8 hours ago, mr_engineer said:

@Consept Out of all the girls you come across on an everyday basis, how do you choose whom to approach? What's the ultimate goal here? 

And, what are we trying to get better at? What is the KPI of our so-called 'game'?! 

Its more about being authentic with yourself, its not something you have to do of course it's only if you do want to get better with talking to girls or people in general. 

If you're being authentic and there's someone you're genuinely interested in then you would want to talk to them. You may feel fear as you're not used to doing it but it's something you want to do. So then your choice is to give into fear and not do it or challenge the fear and do it. Its totally up to you. 

Think about a 5 year old kid that wants to play with another kid they don't know, they're not thinking 'what am I getting out of this interaction and what is the kpi of this', theyre just thinking 'that person looks fun I'm gonna ask them to play'. It's not more complicated with people, you're basically just having fun with people. 

How you choose to approach is if you feel like it will be fun to approach. I don't really subscribe to the 1000 approach but I think it's a really good habit to talk to people you don't know generally, as it helps with social skills, it's fun, you might meet a long term friend or partner. The only downside is rejection which you'll get desensitised to anyway 

 

 

 

 

 

[Raze]

39 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

It's not always about pick-up lines. Girls just laugh at those if they're funny but doesn't really accomplish much, especially if rehearsed. Pretense of shyness can only last but so long as you will always have to be on guard that you don't turn into the opposite. No need to pretend to be shy, no need to be shy, just ordinary. Cool is always nice, I like cool, cool and easy as in easy going. 

You don’t have to be pretend to be shy forever, just at the beginning. And the good pick up lines are designed to seem spontaneous.