Right wing and Russia

[Leo Gura]

8 minutes ago, BlueOak said:

You'd be hard-pressed to argue that communism isn't the boogieman over in America

That's just cause Communism is aweful.

[BlueOak]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's just cause Communism is aweful.

People associate workable solutions involving the state or a collective group of people, as bad. Before they have even considered them.
People should not live in fear of an arbitrary label or dismiss related things under a wide label, without first examining them individually.

This is why we have an unending homeless problem, poverty, and a war on drugs. These are parts of ourselves, and our society, that we fear, belittle, or shun because they require socialist policies to address collectively. This keeps us in stage orange permanently.

Many of my views are not authoritarian and therefore not communist, so this is not me defending communism. I imagine I'd argue with a communist, but I wouldn't label his points as bad before I listened to them.

I understand you probably experienced some of the tail end of these things firsthand, and moved or were moved somewhere more liberal, and that was your or your family's life path. So your bias is to label an umbrella term as bad. I used to do that with authoritarian views, but I have tried to reverse it.

[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, BlueOak said:

Before they have even considered them.

The 20th century has done a lot of "considering" of Communism.

[BlueOak]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The 20th century has done a lot of "considering" of Communism.

This is my turn to grin.

I can count the times, on one hand, that anyone in a discussion has heard of any socialist idea I put forward. I've been in a lot of discussions :D. There is maybe 1 socialist in a thousand now, at least in political spheres, more in regular life perhaps.

*This is probably an exaggeration in a rare left-wing channel for example like the majority report, but not outside of it. They'll be arguing about two concepts, and I'll come in with a third which makes them both stop.

Edited April 17 by BlueOak

[Husseinisdoingfine]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

I am half Russian, half Ukrainian, and half American.

Does this still affect you tangibly? Culturally or the way you live your life?

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

Does this still affect you tangibly? Culturally or the way you live your life?

No. I just don't care or have a national or ethnic identity.

[Bobby_2021]

Most Americans are not in favour of sending money in the hundreds of billions across the world for wars and genocides.

That is a good enough reason to support Russia. It's not just the right wing. It's a pretty logical conclusion.

People who support Ukraine are blinded by Western propaganda.