Does 4-Aco-DMT fumarate works vaped?

[Rigel]

In a e-liquid like you guys like to do with 5-Meo.

I don’t have access to 5-Meo but I still have a few dozen mg of 4-Aco.

[shree]

I was also wondering the same thing about using 4-AcO fumarate in e-liquid. Does anyone know if it's safe? Specifically, is it toxic when inhaled?

[What Am I]

I don't have direct experience with 4-AcO-DMT, but I see no reason it couldn't be mixed with e-juice and vaped. I believe I've seen posts on the /r/researchchemical subreddit where people were doing just that. As you can imagine, it'd likely hit much quicker with more intensity. It's also possible the general experience would be different from eating it since I don't believe vaping would convert it to 4-HO-DMT.

As far as vaping fumarate and other salts in e-juice, I made a post about this a little while ago. The common opinion maintains that it shouldn't be done, but experimentation has been occurring over at DMT-Nexus that begs to differ. I've been following the threads since they began, and I can attest to psychedelic salt vaping being perfectly fine and even superior. Again though, this is only in the context of e-juice. I've heard vaping salts straight up is quite unpleasant.

Edit: Since making this post, I've learned 4-subbed tryptamines react especially poorly in solution. The color quickly changes to a dark brown/black. It's not clear if it affects potency, but it certainly doesn't seem like a positive indicator.

Edited April 15 by What Am I

[Rigel]

10 hours ago, What Am I said:

I don't have direct experience with 4-AcO-DMT, but I see no reason it couldn't be mixed with e-juice and vaped. I believe I've seen posts on the /r/researchchemical subreddit where people were doing just that. As you can imagine, it'd likely hit much quicker with more intensity. It's also possible the general experience would be different from eating it since I don't believe vaping would convert it to 4-HO-DMT.

As far as vaping fumarate and other salts in e-juice, I made a post about this a little while ago. The common opinion maintains that it shouldn't be done, but experimentation has been occurring over at DMT-Nexus that begs to differ. I've been following the threads since they began, and I can attest to psychedelic salt vaping being perfectly fine and even superior. Again though, this is only in the context of e-juice. I've heard vaping salts straight up is quite unpleasant.

Edit: Since making this post, I've learned 4-subbed tryptamines react especially poorly in solution. The color quickly changes to a dark brown/black. It's not clear if it affects potency, but it certainly doesn't seem like a positive indicator.

That's interesting thanks for sharing.

About the 4-types becoming brown & loosing potency, I noticed that the powder I have did become dark brown with time but I have tried it rectally & didn't notice any reduction of potency. I don't know why this happens but it seems not to affect the potency. Maybe it being in solution could have an impact.

[What Am I]

3 hours ago, Rigel said:

That's interesting thanks for sharing.

About the 4-types becoming brown & loosing potency, I noticed that the powder I have did become dark brown with time but I have tried it rectally & didn't notice any reduction of potency. I don't know why this happens but it seems not to affect the potency. Maybe it being in solution could have an impact.

I keep reading this as well. I guess it could be some superficial chemical quirk that causes the color to change.