What distinguishes innocent Palestinians from HAMAS?

[Someone here]

So I've catched up with Palestinian-Israeli war..but help me understand something..

so after the attack on the 7th.. why not ask the Palestinians.. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE ATTACK?
and/or.. DO YOU AGREE WITH HAMAS.. ARE THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ON THE SAME SIDE AS THEM..AND INDEED ARE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM HAMAS?
If yes to any of these.. then why are you feeling sorry for yourselves? If they are innocent then none of the above applies. I just want to know the answer to this question ..why on earth have they not been asked? Beem watch the news recently to learn from CNN ..a lot.. so if I did miss reporters asking Palestinians if they agree with the attack.. they should ask it again and keep asking. The news are persistent with other questioning..so why not such fundamental ones?

Edited April 11 by Someone here

[Heaven]

First, there were many surveys about the support Hamas has from the Palestinian people and it showed more than 50% were in favor of the attack. Also Hamas was elected by the Gazanians not too long ago.
But It depends on how you define “innocence”.

IMO, adults should not be considered as innocent And take full responsibility just like the law in most countries. The sad part for me personally is those who were against Hamas. They are innocents.
 

[BlueOak]

Bomb my home, kill my family and I won't like your country much either.

The strategy you are promoting, separating people from Hamas, is not being practiced. 
Israel is instead strengthening Hamas and Iran by treating the population as Hamas, as you are doing here, repeating the cycle.

There will always be an authority in Palestine. No plan is being made for what that will be.  Even if Hamas changed the name, the people would still hate Israel.

The entire strategy should have been the question: 
How do we separate Hamas from the people? 

Then

How do we put, encourage, or get an authority in Palestine that isn't a violent gang?
 

[Nivsch]

16 hours ago, Heaven said:

The sad part for me personally is those who were against Hamas. They are innocents.

Yes, and the children are 100% innocent. And they are close to half there.

Edited April 12 by Nivsch

[Danioover9000]

@Someone here

On 2024-04-11 at 8:04 PM, Someone here said:

So I've catched up with Palestinian-Israeli war..but help me understand something..

so after the attack on the 7th.. why not ask the Palestinians.. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE ATTACK?
and/or.. DO YOU AGREE WITH HAMAS.. ARE THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ON THE SAME SIDE AS THEM..AND INDEED ARE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM HAMAS?
If yes to any of these.. then why are you feeling sorry for yourselves? If they are innocent then none of the above applies. I just want to know the answer to this question ..why on earth have they not been asked? Beem watch the news recently to learn from CNN ..a lot.. so if I did miss reporters asking Palestinians if they agree with the attack.. they should ask it again and keep asking. The news are persistent with other questioning..so why not such fundamental ones?

   Historically about 50% and more of Gazans have democratically voted for HAMMAs in power, and after that the USA/Israel had to virtue signal denial and not recognize the Gazan's legitimacy of that vote and instead launch major propaganda campaigns against them, calling them terrorists repeatedly.

   Basically if you zoom out, the distinction is like that of a people being passive aggressive and forced to tolerate invaders, versus some people who are fed up with invaders. That distinction is subject to relativity and is very thin and fluid. What's a freedom fighter is another's terrorist. That's it.

[Merkabah Star]

On 12/4/2024 at 10:29 AM, Heaven said:

First, there were many surveys about the support Hamas has from the Palestinian people and it showed more than 50% were in favor of the attack. Also Hamas was elected by the Gazanians not too long ago.
But It depends on how you define “innocence”.

IMO, adults should not be considered as innocent And take full responsibility just like the law in most countries. The sad part for me personally is those who were against Hamas. They are innocents.
 

You said Hamas was elected not too long ago? That’s a lie. you are either not very intelligent or you just lie to suit your narrative.  In 2006 that was the last election. So if you are so sad for the innocents then you are sad for most of the gazans. 

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In 2006, the Palestinian political entity operating in the West Bank and Gaza staged elections. Little did observers know that it would be the last vote allowed by the Palestinian Authority, led then, as it is now, by President Mahmoud Abbas. The vote took place in the aftermath of a turbulent series of events: the fiery years of the second intifada, the death of longtime Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat, and the 2005 Israeli withdrawal of troops and settlers from the Gaza Strip.

The election yielded a shock victory for Hamas, which won the most seats with some 44 percent of the vote. Lara Friedman, president of the Foundation for Middle East Peace, which advocates for rapprochement and peace between Israelis and Palestinians, recently observed that in no single district in Gaza did Hamas win a majority of votes. At present, children make up roughly half of Gaza’s population, meaning only a fraction of the territory’s current population ever cast a ballot for Hamas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/10/24/gaza-election-hamas-2006-palestine-israel/

 

[Twentyfirst]

On 4/11/2024 at 3:04 PM, Someone here said:

So I've catched up with Palestinian-Israeli war..but help me understand something..

so after the attack on the 7th.. why not ask the Palestinians.. DO YOU AGREE WITH THE ATTACK?
and/or.. DO YOU AGREE WITH HAMAS.. ARE THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE ON THE SAME SIDE AS THEM..AND INDEED ARE INDISTINGUISHABLE FROM HAMAS?
If yes to any of these.. then why are you feeling sorry for yourselves? If they are innocent then none of the above applies. I just want to know the answer to this question ..why on earth have they not been asked? Beem watch the news recently to learn from CNN ..a lot.. so if I did miss reporters asking Palestinians if they agree with the attack.. they should ask it again and keep asking. The news are persistent with other questioning..so why not such fundamental ones?

What do you mean by attack? Did Hamas attack on Oct 7th out of nowhere? Or was it a response and not an attack at all

I think your lost because the most persistent question was do you condemn Hamas