Let me blow your mind real quick... You have never actually experienced 'NOW'.

[Davino]

I think the word perception may be misleading, so I'll start calling it Awareness

 

Edited April 11, 2024 by Davino

[Breakingthewall]

There is no perception or conciousness, there is reality . This is the reality, and that is. Every definition is something that happens inside the reality. 

[Princess Arabia]

11 hours ago, ivankiss said:

You, being pure consciousness, of course.

There's no you being pure consciousness. There's only the Absolute. Everything else is appearing within the absolute, and that's only apparent. 

[Breakingthewall]

4 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

There's no you being pure consciousness. There's only the Absolute. Everything else is appearing within the absolute, and that's only apparent. 

Exactly, only this. I don't agree about that's only apparent. Apparent implies many thing, and it's only one thing: is

 To be apparent, a you judging that is apparent is needed, and both happens inside the absolute 

Edited April 11, 2024 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

There is no discovering the truth of the matter. How can what already is be discovered. There's no discovering. There is no movement. Time and space isn't real. It's all illusory. You are trapped inside your own dream and the I wants to escape. There is no escape because there is no I. This is all there is. It's so simple. There is no perception. Perception implies duality. A perceiver and something being perceived. 

Once something is known, it is a part of the dream. Stop trying to figure shit out. There is nothing to figure out. If you insist on being a "you", you are being neurotic and delusional. If you insist on trying to know, you are being neurotic. This is all neurosis. You cannot figure out anything because whatever you're doing to figure anything out is also it. There's no two (2). There is no one(1). There is only what is. You are not figuring out, the energy of trying to figure out something is arising within the Absolute. Then the I responds. You can't help it because you insists there's a you. When it happens, it just happens. The only thing is you will never get there because there is no where to get. Human being are all neurotic. The trick is that its only appearing that way because neurosis is only a function of what happens when there is an I. Blah, blah, blah.

[Princess Arabia]

13 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Exactly, only this. I don't agree about that's only apparent. Apparent implies many thing, and it's only one thing: is

 To be apparent, a you judging that is apparent is needed, and both happens inside the absolute 

The Absolute is not some logical thing that you can make sense of. It doesn't make any sense, because it is also the "doesn't make sense". There is nothing here, nothing REALLY happening, it only appears to be and you think you can figure out why things are the way they are and use logic to try and figure it out. You not agreeing is also it. "A you judging that is apparent", is also it". It is free to not make sense, it is free to appear as a you judging it is apparent. It is free to appear as a you, a not you a you saying its apparent, a you saying it can't be do, a you saying whatever you're saying. It is all that, already. It cannot be figured out because to figure it out implies knowing and what is cannot be known. It is emptiness appearing as all. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Breakingthewall]

13 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

. It cannot be figured out because to figure it out implies knowing and what is cannot be known. It is emptiness appearing as all.

Exactly, thats what I was saying, that define it as apparent is just a definition. This is the reality and that's it. The only thing that you can know is the substance of the reality, because it's your substance. You are the reality, then you open yourself to your true nature. That's true that what it's appearing is apparent in the sense that is not permanent in it's shape, but it's false in the sense that is permanent in it's substance, it's existence, and you can open yourself totally to it, and then say: hallelujah, the absolute total existence without bottom is here and now, and I am that. 

Edited April 11, 2024 by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Exactly, thats what I was saying, that define it as apparent is just a definition. This is the reality and that's it. The only thing that you can know is the substance of the reality, because it's your substance. You are the reality, then you open yourself to your true nature. That's true that what it's appearing is apparent in the sense that is not permanent in it's shape, but it's false in the sense that is permanent in it's substance, it's existence, and you can open yourself totally to it, and then say: hallelujah, the absolute total existence without bottom is here and now, and I am that. 

No. That definition is also it. "this is the reality" is dualistic. This is- and reality. That is two. Nothing wrong in speaking like this, but I'm trying to point you to the fact that you are speaking dualistically, which is all you can do by the nature of language. This is why it cannot be talked about because it is also the very words used to talk about it.

You cannot know the substance of reality because that knowing is also the Absolute. There is no true nature, because whatever you say your true nature is, is also it. True nature implies a thing. This is my true nature is also dualistic. There is no substance, because that substance would also be it. The substance of the Absolute is........dualistic. You can open yourself totally to it......dualistic. There is ONLY the Absolute. 

[Buck Edwards]

There's not much evidence to this. Easily discarded theory. Don't believe this.