Rafael Thundercat

When you change your identity and worldview even your voice change.

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This Ex Mormon Girl noticed that she used to have a more submissive infantile voice tone when she was Mormon Member. Interesting

 

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When I'm talking to a Jamaican, about Jamaica or reacting to a Jamaican video, my voice changes. The patio dialect comes out more. I've been in the States for a while now and most of my interactions, except for family and very close friends, have been with Americans. I consider myself to be one that speaks proper English, with not that many slangs but still with a slight accent because people still ask where's my accent from - but not as much as before.

So, I can see where one's voice can change even though what I've described isn't really a change in the voice's tone but a change in how one articulates or expresses oneself verbally.


 

 

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1 minute ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

I think humans just prefer to talk the way the people around them talk. It's coming from a place of wanting to fit in with those around you. At least that's what I think it is for me.

I could be watching a Jamaican video with an American who I don't speak Jamaican around and suddenly I find myself speaking Jamaican, with no thought or preconceived notion that I need to fit in or impress or anything like that. It just happens. It is not like that for you, you only think that. It's just spontaneously happening.


 

 

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11 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

I'm not talking about trying to fit in in a social way, but more in a neurological way. Babies learn how to talk and walk by mirroring the people around them

Are you sure about this. Why aren't they mirroring everything and why don't they mirror certain things. A baby is not going to do the catwalk because I'm doing the catwalk in front of them. They would have to know how to walk first, then the steps by practicing it. You don't have to practice something to mirror it. It's innate, babies learn how to walk and talk through nature. What they say and how they walk might be learnt. What you say while talking the accent and how you say it is not what is being said. Just the mere doing of it is spontaneous. The rest, as in how it's said as in loudly or softly, slowly or fast and what's being said as in the content is irrelevant to what I'm saying about it spontaneously happening and can be learnt behavior.

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Posted (edited)

15 minutes ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:

BTW what I'm talking about isn't necessarily coming from a desire to fit in, it can come from other factors like fear, love etc. If someone fears the police they might try to suppress their accent in the presence of a cop for example.

Yes, but that is thought out. An accent that has been suppressed, changed and masked out of fear is not the same as someone just blurting out a comment or response in a language they don't normally speak. 

For example, if a cop comes up to me with the sole intention of arresting me because I'm Jamaican and for no other reason and I'm aware of it, I will try to mask my accent and try not to sound Jamaican. Try. If I'm watching a Jamaican movie and a sudden outburst of whatever I said about the movie happened, I wouldn't be thinking to mask how I express that outburst it would just have occurred spontaneously. Thats the difference I'm talking about. It's spontaneous at times without thought into it and that can be triggered by anything at anytime but for me its usually Jamaican related or if I'm extremely angry.

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I am in Brasil for the least 2 months and I noticed that I got a little bit of the local accent of the people from where I am. Of course I can keep my natural unique way of speaking but I noticed that things flow better socially if I speak a little bit with the cadence and playfullness of the local dialect. So this adaptation is somehow a way of survival. And again, I am aware that I can do it consciously or I also can decide to keep my own unique way of comunication. To is a balance to adapt but not lose your own authentic way of speaking. The girl in the video found her past way of speaking something that make her new self weird in the belly, that is because her past self was speaking in a way to survive as an identity in a cult, or cult-ture, so culture shape us no matter what. You cant escape your conditioning, but you can become aware of it. I dont blame  myself for even changing my ways since I do it from a playfull frame. These days I am trying not to be to rigid with myself. Keep my boudaries but be open to know new ways of being,think,feel and speak. 

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