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Should I give up nightgame?

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I'm 29 years old and in a period of my life where almost all I think about and really want to do, is to date or hook up with girls. I've probably been out at night 100 times now, but I’ve never ever got a single result (like a date or sex). It doesn’t matter if I’m drinking or am sober, alone or with friends, not even when me and my friends go out to celebrate my birthday and I’m at the center of attention, it all leads to the same: No girls seem to find me attractive enough, and if some do, you can be sure that a girlfriend of hers will do everything in her power to ruin it! 

This leads to that time and again when I go out, I end up being very bitter and self-destructive. This affects my relationships in a very negative way.

I actually get pretty good results with dating apps, so I guess my looks are pretty good. These apps are absolutely terrible for mental health though. In addition, the girls I match with are usually around my own age or older, so they are more serious and ready to settle down than I am. 

I’ve also actually had success with daygame, but I’ve discovered that Norway simply is a too small country for it and it’s too much against the cultural norms here. It puts my reputation in too much danger.

So, should I go all in and try again and again until I get my first result, or should I just give up?

PS: I have Asperger’s. My hearing ability is also pretty bad at places with loud music, which also for sure doesn’t make it easier. Neither that I don’t dance, even though I've spent a lot of time trying to learn to be comfortable with it, both drunk and sober.

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1 hour ago, Kid A said:

I'm 29 years old and in a period of my life where almost all I think about and really want to do, is to date or hook up with girls. I've probably been out at night 100 times now, but I’ve never ever got a single result (like a date or sex). It doesn’t matter if I’m drinking or am sober, alone or with friends, not even when me and my friends go out to celebrate my birthday and I’m at the center of attention, it all leads to the same: No girls seem to find me attractive enough, and if some do, you can be sure that a girlfriend of hers will do everything in her power to ruin it! 

This leads to that time and again when I go out, I end up being very bitter and self-destructive. This affects my relationships in a very negative way.

I actually get pretty good results with dating apps, so I guess my looks are pretty good. These apps are absolutely terrible for mental health though. In addition, the girls I match with are usually around my own age or older, so they are more serious and ready to settle down than I am. 

I’ve also actually had success with daygame, but I’ve discovered that Norway simply is a too small country for it and it’s too much against the cultural norms here. It puts my reputation in too much danger.

So, should I go all in and try again and again until I get my first result, or should I just give up?

PS: I have Asperger’s. My hearing ability is also pretty bad at places with loud music, which also for sure doesn’t make it easier. Neither that I don’t dance, even though I've spent a lot of time trying to learn to be comfortable with it, both drunk and sober.

My friend you're not alone!

I've been going out every single weekend to local night clubs, but still haven't gotten solid results. 

Even when I approach a girl they just laugh and dance with you, but their friends do whatever it takes to ruin all my efforts. It's just ridiculous, but what can we do?  

I think you shouldn't give up on night game but rather move to a bigger city where you have more options. 

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If your looks check out (to any decent degree) AND you haven't gotten ANYTHING in 100 attempts, (as I just said in another post), reflect into your: "Status", Charisma, "Offerings" (of experiences/emotions). Everyone has different results but (imo) to go 0 for 100 means you must be doing something VERY wrong or completely uncalibrated for your environment

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On 07/04/2024 at 5:01 PM, Kid A said:

I’ve also actually had success with daygame, but I’ve discovered that Norway simply is a too small country for it and it’s too much against the cultural norms here. It puts my reputation in too much danger.

I was also concerned about milking dry a single place through mass cold approaches. Some argument that it doesn't matter how calibrated our approaches are, eventually, if we cold approach too much in the same place, people will start to recognize us... And well, that's not a cold approach anymore.

As I have seen here, even the capital of Norway looks too much like a small town...

I remember Leo Gura saying that in cold approach the most important is the LOCATION, and a location with high-volume.

I've seen horror stories of people trying mass approach on, for example, on a small town in the "land of the queen". And they are quickly seen as the local creep and chased down by vigilantes, receiving death threats, having their arms broken, almost getting killed, being put in jail temporarily because they approached too many girls not of the right age by mistake, etc.

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By the way, I think it's important to note that the worst story I've heard from mass cold approaches on a small population is that they are neurodivergent too.

At this point, you might consider building a social circle.

But, Leo says it takes hundreds to thousands of approaches to really improve your skills, and considering a neurodivergent mind, it might make it much harder. But that's not reason to give up, you have to analyze if there is still what you can improve in your game in general, and thinking about if you can move to a bigger country/city.

Find local wingmen to learn from them. Even neurotypicals need good wingmen to learn from. 

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2 hours ago, Lucasxp64 said:

I was also concerned about milking dry a single place through mass cold approaches. Some argument that it doesn't matter how calibrated our approaches are, eventually, if we cold approach too much in the same place, people will start to recognize us... And well, that's not a cold approach anymore.

As I have seen here, even the capital of Norway looks too much like a small town...

I remember Leo Gura saying that in cold approach the most important is the LOCATION, and a location with high-volume.

I've seen horror stories of people trying mass approach on, for example, on a small town in the "land of the queen". And they are quickly seen as the local creep and chased down by vigilantes, receiving death threats, having their arms broken, almost getting killed, being put in jail temporarily because they approached too many girls not of the right age by mistake, etc.

I live in Oslo. I think it's a pretty great city for daygame. I did way too much spam approaching in 2021 and 2022 though, so there were a couple of girls I approached several times, unfortunately. 

For several reasons I've actually decided to quit nightgame and make a comeback with daygame. It simply fits me so much better. In 2023 I had one single approach during daytime and I got a date with her. That's clearly something else than my results from nighttime! 

I'm not gonna spam approach like I used to, but approach one or two if I'm going out in Oslo. I also want to go more to the big cities in the near abroad, like Gothenburg, Stockholm and Copenhagen. There I can approach more without being too concerned about my reputation. 

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I think for sex, maybe u need to be a really hard closer and get the logistics down. Cant be too picky. For date, i think its not that hard to get a date.. But then again, I dont know your personal circumstances so... Wish you best of luck!

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