Majed

does pick up even work ?

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@Kid A i mean it's easy relative to other places

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@MajedI wouldn't worry about value stuff really because it's hard to change in the short term, although dressing better helps.

Besides that, if you just want a gf whose status is similar to yours then it's not necessary to increase it -- there are a lot of women with similar value to you, and it’s about finding one you click with at an acceptable cost of your time and effort. 

Of the women with similar value and age, you'll still only be the "type" of something like 20% of them. And, many will have boyfriends and not be open to you. 

So, randomly approaching women will mean getting repeatedly rejected, just based on the numbers. 

This is why approaching random people is basically a numbers game (like cold outreach in sales). Let's actually go with the sales analogy for a bit, because it is less emotionally loaded.

In sales, you make a list of qualified prospects -- companies that can both afford and benefit from your service -- and try to book meetings. But, 95% of the people you contact will brush you off because they already have an existing provider. 

Of the 5% of people who don’t have a provider, some will brush you off because they're in a bad mood, don't like the sound of your voice, etc. 

This is why cold-calling is brutal and the best salespeople hire underlings to do it, rely on marketing to generate leads, focus on going to industry events where companies go to meet new vendors, build a network of referrals, or at least use software to measure "intent." They don’t just open the phone book and dial for dollars. 

Ok, so let's go back to your situation. If you find the repeated rejection exhausting, you can make it a bit less of a grind. 

  • Pre-qualify your prospects. If you continue with cold approach, try to pre-qualify the women you approach for interest and availability. So, do far fewer approaches, like 3-5 per day, but on women who indicate some interest in you or at least high availability. This is what I did when I was single because the spam approach was way too exhausting for me. Some ways of doing it (none are foolproof, just increase the odds):  
    • Eye contact  
      • If she meets your eye contact for more than 3/4 of a second or so, she is likely single and will be receptive to a conversation. 
    • Slow movement, wandering around during the day 
      •  The girl is probably bored and will be receptive to at least talking for a few minutes 
      • If she does not have her phone out as a shield, then she is probably hoping someone talks to her on some level 
    • Hanging around in your proximity in a bar situation 
  • Use a marketing channel -- like a dating app -- to screen for women who are looking for guys and who at least like your photos and what you say in your profile
  • Lower the price of your offer, i.e., approach less physically attractive girls 

Just like in business, you should only lower your price after experimenting a bit with the other options though. :) 

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