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[Danioover9000]

@Nivsch

5 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Eliminating hamas is necessary, but this war is done too hastly by our government and not in a smart way. The last thing Gazans need is that hamas will return control them what will be not less tragic than what already happened to them. They deserve a real change that at least something good will come out of all of this mess.

   I agree! Yes your government was too hasty bombing 70% plus buildings, with a ratio of smart/dumb bombs, killing some civilians, and currently using starvation tactics against most Gazans in the south now. It's almost like the Israel Zionists don't want Gazans to go back home, displacing the Gazans...What group in history does this remind you of?🤔

[Nivsch]

7 hours ago, Vrubel said:

My flight got cancelled due to the Iran tensions but I'll go a little later as soon as possible. 

Oh no problem update me! 😁

Edited April 15 by Nivsch

[Razard86]

On 4/13/2024 at 2:15 AM, Inliytened1 said:

In my eyes Israel is simply attempting to expunge its enemies..not grab more land.  Once the threat is tamed it would not go on to conquer other nations.   You again have to consider the history of the Jewish people and the persecution they endured.  Then you might be able to see it from their perspective.  Aggeession was their own only avenue.  To keep up with the current times or be swallowed up yet again.

Land disputes are the silliest thing. Humans just go around and take land from each other and then argue whose land it is. It really doesn't even make sense when you look at it. A bunch of countries came together to create Israel as a state which created this whole conflict in the first place, and then everyone goes around taking sides.

It's like....what really gives you land rights. Is it first come first serve? Is it whoever is the most powerful? Humans don't really sit down and discuss these things they just fight over this stuff likes its the last chicken in the fridge. Survival is really just a thread of lies, intellectual dishonesty at its highest because it literally impacts how people make ends meet.

The first fall from grace here is when humans stopped seeing themselves as humans and started creating races and ethnic groups. It just perpetuates cycles of violence and dehumanization propaganda over and over again.

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Razard86 said:

Land disputes are the silliest thing.

Let's see how you feel about that when someone bulldozes your house and builds theirs on top.

[Razard86]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Let's see how you feel about that when someone bulldozes your house and builds theirs on top.

Leo I've been homeless before. I wouldn't care I would just move on. This dream already shows it takes care of me. So what would there be to be afraid of. Something would just happen for me. *YAWN*.

Edited April 16 by Razard86

[Danioover9000]

@Razard86

8 hours ago, Razard86 said:

Land disputes are the silliest thing. Humans just go around and take land from each other and then argue whose land it is. It really doesn't even make sense when you look at it. A bunch of countries came together to create Israel as a state which created this whole conflict in the first place, and then everyone goes around taking sides.

It's like....what really gives you land rights. Is it first come first serve? Is it whoever is the most powerful? Humans don't really sit down and discuss these things they just fight over this stuff likes its the last chicken in the fridge. Survival is really just a thread of lies, intellectual dishonesty at its highest because it literally impacts how people make ends meet.

The first fall from grace here is when humans stopped seeing themselves as humans and started creating races and ethnic groups. It just perpetuates cycles of violence and dehumanization propaganda over and over again.

   GENIUS POST! Never thought about that, so I'll buy you out of your rent and house property too, don't complain to me Mr. Genius. Take some history lessons here:

 

 

 

 

   All fun and games with spiritual terms until some group steals your home you and your family and your ancestors belong to.

[Vrubel]

@Danioover9000 Because they keep starting and losing wars.

Settlement building is in tango with Palestinian terror. 

In reality settlement building just means that a future Palestinian state will be with a Jewish minority when a center-left government will propose deals. If they wanted a Judenrein state they could have agreed on the many decent peace settlements offered to them in earlier times. Like with Ehud Barak relatively recently. 

Having a Jewish minority is not a bad thing for your state, quite the opposite.

Legitimate Palestinian grievances about rights and sovereignty can only be addressed from a state of (relative) calm and Israelis feeling trust and secure with the idea of a Palestinian state. The latest terror is a perfect example of how Israelis feel the need to defend themselves against a greater malice and don't at all feel like trusting the Palestinians with a state or giving rewards for terror, what kind of message will that send.

 

[Danioover9000]

@Vrubel

2 hours ago, Vrubel said:

@Danioover9000 Because they keep starting and losing wars.

Settlement building is in tango with Palestinian terror. 

In reality settlement building just means that a future Palestinian state will be with a Jewish minority when a center-left government will propose deals. If they wanted a Judenrein state they could have agreed on the many decent peace settlements offered to them in earlier times. Like with Ehud Barak relatively recently. 

Having a Jewish minority is not a bad thing for your state, quite the opposite.

Legitimate Palestinian grievances about rights and sovereignty can only be addressed from a state of (relative) calm and Israelis feeling trust and secure with the idea of a Palestinian state. The latest terror is a perfect example of how Israelis feel the need to defend themselves against a greater malice and don't at all feel like trusting the Palestinians with a state or giving rewards for terror, what kind of message will that send.

 

   Is that before or after greater Israel?

[Vrubel]

8 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Vrubel

   Is that before or after greater Israel?

Israel is already great 

In all seriousness, I don't see Jews becoming a majority in the West Bank any time soon so a two-state solution will remain viable for a long time. 

[Nivsch]

3 hours ago, Razard86 said:

This dream already shows it takes care of me.

What do you mean by that?