Craziest things that I did on 5MeO

[Thought Art]

@TheGod ye

It was a dab rig method

vape carts are much easier to control dose now

Edited April 11 by Thought Art

[Javfly33]

has anyone tried to smoke 5-meo off foil? Like a classic chasing the dragon but psychedelic version 🤔

I mean if it’s freebase it should work fine.

 

[Thought Art]

@Javfly33 Should work, but why

unless your being a jerk 😂

Edited April 12 by Thought Art

[halfknots]

@Javfly33 I first smoked n,n-DMT this way.

It works of course but there's no reason to do it this way if practically any other method is available.

[Javfly33]

4 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Javfly33 Should work, but why

unless your being a jerk 😂

 

3 hours ago, halfknots said:

@Javfly33 I first smoked n,n-DMT this way.

It works of course but there's no reason to do it this way if practically any other method is available.

Cause is a good why to control how much you smoke. 

[Thought Art]

@Javfly33 I be chasing the blue dragon

 

[Thought Art]

4 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Cause is a good why to control how much you smoke. 

There are plenty of more ways of doing it. Safe ways I have found include:

1. Slow deliberate use of vape cart

2. Snorting

3. Boofing

 

The dangerous ways are taking 20mg+ from a bong or dab rig like Martin ball taught at some point. That can be safe if a shaman is watching you do you can break through into infinity. But, for solo trips I find a vape cart safest because I can control it. 
 

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[SASAM]

What is your vape cart ratio - specifically with the first story?

[halfknots]

9 hours ago, Javfly33 said:

 

Cause is a good why to control how much you smoke. 

Controlling how much you smoke is a non issue with practically every method if you know your dose.

Smoking off of foil has a high learning curve, meaning high risk of wasting material due to either burning or not being able to manipulate the lighter, straw, and foil.

Zero benefit over any other method.

[halfknots]

@SASAM titrated dosing is where it's at for me. This involves working your way up, for example 1:16, to 1:4, and then 1:2 if you want to go deep.

By starting low you give your system time to familiarize yourself with the gradual expansion and release with significantly less risk of energetic overload.

Edited April 12 by halfknots

[Thought Art]

4 hours ago, halfknots said:

Controlling how much you smoke is a non issue with practically every method if you know your dose.

Smoking off of foil has a high learning curve, meaning high risk of wasting material due to either burning or not being able to manipulate the lighter, straw, and foil.

Zero benefit over any other method.

True, I guess I just meant there is a risk of residue with pipes and dab rigs

[halfknots]

9 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

True, I guess I just meant there is a risk of residue with pipes and dab rigs

You could use a nectar collector

[Javfly33]

13 hours ago, halfknots said:

l due to either burning or not being able to manipulate the lighter, straw, and foil.

 

Not true, the fact that you can control the distance the flame is from the foil is gurantees that the chemical never reach certain burning or too temperature state, where you can not do with other smoking methods. 

You can also know exactly how much substance you are inhaling. The moment you drop the flame it instaneously stops.

Except from an e-pen you can not achieve this with any other method. And not even (because with you can still do not know how much you've smoked). 

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Zero benefit over any other method.

If you say so. There´s a reason why people smoke off foil and not do the wacky smoking paraphernalia you guys do with psychedelics. But if you want to feel above crack users just because you are doing a psychedelic, be it. 

 

Edited April 13 by Javfly33

[Thought Art]

@halfknots What is that 

[Thought Art]

@Javfly33 ? When did I say I was above a crack user?

Edited April 13 by Thought Art

[Grateful Dead]

@Javfly33 Lol dude are you serious? Heroin is smoked with foil as far as I know and for crack an oil pipe is used. Which is also good to smoke DMT, but why would you do it with a tin foil when there are many better ways, one being a 5€ oil pipe. The moment you stop inhaling it also instantly stops...

And also of course smoking crack is very different from taking a psychedelic. It's not about being above crack addicts but normally the set and setting are completely different.

[Thought Art]

@Grateful Dead He wants to put himself above psychedelic users by putting them down.

His choice,

The tools are not for everyone.

If a man thinks an apple is an orange, who can change his mind?

It's not about being above a crack addict.

It's that mushrooms and crack are very different.

The sun in the moon are both in the sky, but they are very different.

We aren't finding incredible healing research from people using crack.

But, there is a very large body of evidence that magic mushrooms, or 5Meodmt have immense healing ability when used maturely.

A crack addict is controlled by the substance

A mature 5meodmt user, may only use the substance once each year, once every 3 months and they do it with spiritual intention. 

I think buddhist idealogues who think their lame meditation is the only way are basically smoking that buddha crack for hours a day. And yet, most of them don't have any awakenings and never will.  

( I am pro meditation, but a hammer is not a screwdriver)

Edited April 13 by Thought Art

[halfknots]

@Javfly33 I'm sharing what I've learned from experience. In the hands of a master, even subpar tools can get the job done well. Do you want to become a master of smoking off of foil? That's fine.

People use foil because it's quick, accessible, cheap, and disposable. This makes it ideal under circumstances when those qualities are a priority. Under other circumstances, other tools are better suited.

Part of the fun of any hobby is exploring different tools, noticing their benefits and limitations, and discovering ones own preferences.

Edited April 15 by halfknots

[halfknots]

On 4/12/2024 at 11:15 PM, Thought Art said:

@halfknots What is that 

https://yodabbadabba.com/dabbing-resources/nectar-collector