Leo you misunderstand Hitler completely

[Bobby_2021]

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You cannot behave as Hitler behaved and be egalitarian.

The most egalitarian countries of today, the Scandinavian countries went through Nazi style sterilization in the 20th centuries aimed at minorities, mixed race and women.

There are archeological evidence to suggest that they went through ethnic cleansing as early as 1000 AD. That might have contributed to their enthic homogeneity and the subsequent egalitarianism. 

They had a similar goal as that of Hitler. Now they are ethnically homogeneous and pretty egalitarian.

I am not endorsing it, but this could have been very well the result of Nazi Germany had they won the war. 

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[Bobby_2021]

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what were the consequences of forced sterilization in the nordic countries

The consequences of forced sterilization in the Nordic countries were profound and had lasting impacts on individuals and society. Between 1923 and 1976, approximately 170,000 sterilizations were performed, with the majority targeting women[1]. Victims, often labeled as mentally ill, disabled, or socially undesirable, suffered irreversible procedures without their consent, leading to physical and emotional trauma[2]. Many victims were left without explanations or corrective procedures, facing the loss of their reproductive rights and the ability to have children[2]. The forced sterilization policies were justified as tools of social engineering and cost-saving measures for welfare programs, reflecting a dark chapter in the region's history that only gained widespread criticism and ethical debate after 1945[3][4]. The revelation of these practices in the 1990s led to steps being taken to compensate victims and address the injustices perpetrated through these policies[1]. The consequences of forced sterilization underscore the violation of human rights, the enduring trauma experienced by victims, and the need for accountability and recognition of these past atrocities.

Citations:
[1] Eugenics in the Nordic countries https://nordics.info/show/artikel/eugenics-in-the-nordic-countries
[2] [PDF] decade policy of forced sterilization and the eugenics movement in the ... https://mckinneylaw.iu.edu/iiclr/pdf/vol8p475.pdf
[3] Eradication of "deviants": the dark side of the Swedish Model." https://www.independentliving.org/docs5/sterilization.html
[4] Eugenics and the Welfare State: Sterilization Policy in Norway ... https://muse.jhu.edu/article/225135/pdf
[5] Sweden admits to racial purification | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/sweden-admits-to-racial-purification-1247261.html
 

 

[Leo Gura]

13 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

The most egalitarian countries of today, the Scandinavian countries went through Nazi style sterilization in the 20th centuries aimed at minorities, mixed race and women.

They had a similar goal as that of Hitler. Now they are ethnically homogeneous and pretty egalitarian.

Where I will agree with you is that it is easier to create an egalitarian society if it is ethnically homogeneous.

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I am not endorsing it, but this could have been very well the result of Nazi Germany had they won the war. 

No, it could not, because even if Hitler won the war, he would have enslaved half the planet under his sick rule and they would not just quietly obey, there would be ongoing rebellion, sabotage, and violence because Hitler's fantasy of a Third Reich was fundamentally unstable. Hitler would not succeed in eliminating all the minorities and getting everyone to agree to his style of governance.

Nazism is an incoherent and unstable system. It can never succeed no matter how hard you push it. Because it is based on domination of those who disagree with you.

Even Hitler's own commanders tried to assassinate him. Because they couldn't stand his authoritarian ways. Hitler was not a nice guy to deal with even for his own Aryan brothers. He was like Trump. Trump is an asshole even to his own family.

Stable leadership requires a cooperative, collaborative, respectful, and peaceful approach. This is why all dictatorships fail.

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[Danioover9000]

@Bobby_2021

11 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

The most egalitarian countries of today, the Scandinavian countries went through Nazi style sterilization in the 20th centuries aimed at minorities, mixed race and women.

There are archeological evidence to suggest that they went through ethnic cleansing as early as 1000 AD. That might have contributed to their enthic homogeneity and the subsequent egalitarianism. 

They had a similar goal as that of Hitler. Now they are ethnically homogeneous and pretty egalitarian.

I am not endorsing it, but this could have been very well the result of Nazi Germany had they won the war. 

   True, furthermore this is proof that democracy, individualism, multiculturalism, and egalitarianism cannot survive by themselves. Feminism, egalitarianism, multiculturalism, democracy, individualism, and your rights must have enforcement mechanism and MEN willing to defend those arbitrary rights in the first place. That is why a more left wing or Nordic style of democracy is not possible in some places in the world without military and police systems in place to maintain law and order.

   Ultimately if Nazi Germany won the world, conquered all of Europe and tried to conquer the world, it'll eventually eat it's own tail. You'd have to be some genius warlord like Genghis Khan or something to be able to expand your empire and delegate to your own generals to rule parts of your large empire, so it necessarily forces a psychological evolution to expand your ideology to cover other cultures under your rulership. So actually egotism has to reduce overtime to allow this kind of expansion, and other developmental factors involved would have to be in place to create the greatest empire in this world's existence.

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[Bobby_2021]

What I got from this discussion is:

Going by structural peculiarities 80% of the world is right wing and the remaining left ones will barely ever get to power, or even worse become right wing in the process.

Basically completely disregard their flag or what they speak. 

[Bobby_2021]

@Danioover9000 Your posts are something that I can't be sure if your ghost friend is posting on behalf of you. 

[Danioover9000]

@Bobby_2021

Just now, Bobby_2021 said:

What I got from this discussion is:

Going by structural peculiarities 80% of the world is right wing and the remaining left ones will barely ever get to power, or even worse become right wing in the process.

Basically completely disregard their flag or what they speak. 

   More like 75% of the world has stage blue values groups, about 15% stage orange/green values nations/countries, and the rest of the percentages gets delineated to the other stages. 

[Leo Gura]

Remember, where you draw the line between left and right is relative and up to you.

You could draw it at the Taliban. Then anyone more liberal than the Taliban is left wing.

Are you okay with women showing their faces in public? Then you're a sick Satanic liberal and you deserve a beheading

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[Majed]

@Leo Gura something i don't understand is this whole attitude of women covering their heads in islam, sounds opressive af. even though my own mother wears it lol 

[Danioover9000]

@Majed

Just now, Majed said:

@Leo Gura something i don't understand is this whole attitude of women covering their heads in islam, sounds opressive af. even though my own mother wears it lol 

   Some faces can be alluring and sexy I guess.

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, Majed said:

this whole attitude of women covering their heads in islam, sounds opressive af.

If you were properly conservative, allowing women to show their faces would be liberal and evil af. What decent man would allow his women to be such sluts? Would you let your daughter leave the house with her tits hanging out?

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[Nemra]

11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Then you're a sick Satanic liberal and you deserve a beheading

That kind of relativeness goes in one ear and out the other until you are directly effected. People in developed countries don't know how relatively safe they are.

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[Bobby_2021]

3 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura something i don't understand is this whole attitude of women covering their heads in islam, sounds opressive af. even though my own mother wears it lol 

You are not allowed criticize Islam like you do with others.

Although there are many countries that ban it. 

[Majed]

@Leo Gura i mean at heart all men are rapists, and women are sluts lol. this is our sexual nature i guess you could say. like sexually a guy wanna see a hot girl and immediately bang her, that's what pick up allows you to do legally lmao. and women wanna be sluts and sexually free as well.

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[Leo Gura]

1 minute ago, Majed said:

and women wanna be sluts and sexually free as well.

There are many conservative women around the world, and they are happy that way.

[Majed]

@Leo Gura honestly if i was a father i would let my daughter do whatever she wants with her body, not to opress her and as long as it is legal. now tits hanging out i don't know if it is legal lol but if it was normal and legal i would let her lol

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura honestly if i was a father i would let my daughter do whatever she wants with her body, not to opress her and as long as it is legal. now tits hanging out i don't know if it is legal lol but if it was normal and legal i would let her lol

Only because you are a crazy lib.

In Iran it is illegal for women to not wear a head scarf.

In Afghanistan it is illegal for women to go to high school.

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[Bobby_2021]

2 minutes ago, Majed said:

@Leo Gura honestly if i was a father i would let my daughter do whatever she wants with her body, not to opress her and as long as it is legal. now tits hanging out i don't know if it is legal lol but if it was normal and legal i would let her lol

Let's be real. You wouldn't let her do that and rightly so.

It's okay to not give up to the angry leftists and have strong family values. 

The propensity for women to get fucked over is not little. You can let her learn her lessons and grow. But I would rather not have her go through all that. 

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[Majed]

@Leo Gura the majority of women in the world dress like sluts lmao, go to on a busy street in a big city you'll see all women dress like sluts. that's actually a contemplative insight of mine.

[Majed]

@Leo Gura yeah i mean obviously you have to abide by the rules to avoid going to jail i guess, but otherwise i got no problem with my daughter hanging her tits out