Good video about Hypergamy by Owen Cook

[OBEler]

Oh holy shit...now I know why he doesn't look so good as back then and is always screaming around. He really went through something..

[Leo Gura]

Imagine if I had to delete all my videos and start from scratch.

That's what Owen did.

Mad respect for that. Owen is a beast.

But to be fair to the girls, he did post a lot of obnoxiously sexist and immature stuff. And Julien was a total jackass.

Edited March 26 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

Owen is deep SD blue. Very strong ethic and a big heart.  He talks about Christianity a lot. At the same time a lot of SD orange back in his freaky days with Julien and his others mentors going loose. Very interesting guy. 

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

Owen is deep SD blue.

Blue? Owen is lost in Orange.

[Felliks]

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Blue? Owen is lost in Orange.

No way. Isn't he in the Green right now? Orange is the grind he did, but at least his philosophy and teachings come from a place of mutual understanding and emotional intelligence at this moment don't they?

Or can that be a curtain for his real being, which is Orange af? That would make me red as an apple, even if I identify as Blue...

[k-ahmadzadeh]

Guys I wonder how social skills can spark romantic attraction in a girl's mind. Given the fact that the act of sex is done by a direct bodily contact, then how being very charming and funny in a social setting can fuel the attraction alone? It seems to me that those skills can make people to be your friends, they'll love you very much in a friendship sense, but where is the sexual desire here? 

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I would also like to emphasise that, in my opinion, the key to improve one's social skills can directly be related to his strong desire / passion of influencing and impressing other people. Here even one's subjective meaning of life is somehow related to being engaged with other people in a meaningful way. 

But if you can't feel a deep value in impressing other people like me, you'll struggle to find a motivation to continue socialising in the face of many rejections.  

 

[mmKay]

https://www.change.org/p/the-honourable-chris-alexander-p-c-m-p-minister-of-citizenship-and-immigration-canada-keep-julien-blanc-and-real-social-dynamics-rsd-out-of-canada

Just one of the few petitions that happened

Edited March 26 by mmKay

[Consept]

9 minutes ago, k-ahmadzadeh said:

But if you can't feel a deep value in impressing other people like me, you'll struggle to find a motivation to continue socialising in the face of many rejections.  

No the key is to not give a fuck about impressing people, essentially being free from outcome. If you have this mentally you can just enjoy the social experience without trying to 'get something' from it. That energy is attractive 

[StarStruck]

54 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Blue? Owen is lost in Orange.

Orange is atheist 

[k-ahmadzadeh]

14 minutes ago, Consept said:

No the key is to not give a fuck about impressing people, essentially being free from outcome. If you have this mentally you can just enjoy the social experience without trying to 'get something' from it. That energy is attractive 

It is practically impossible to apply. 'When you are talking, you need to be listened, otherwise there is no point to talk' - that's a basic constitutive element of an interaction. So you even need to influence / impress other people to be listened firstly. 

The guys who 'seem like not giving a fuck' are the ones who somehow are in abundance and have many options. If you have too many options, then there is no need to be concerned about what the specific individuals' or groups' think about you. 

[k-ahmadzadeh]

"being free from outcome" is a myth.

[Consept]

29 minutes ago, k-ahmadzadeh said:

The guys who 'seem like not giving a fuck' are the ones who somehow are in abundance and have many options. If you have too many options, then there is no need to be concerned about what the specific individuals' or groups' think about you. 

It's not really about that, it's about having an inner confidence regardless of options. I'm sure you can recognise that there are some people who seem to have an inner confidence where they're not phased and are just themselves. Someone posted Jack Black as an example on another thread. If he has options he probably doesn't care too much about them and his confidence is obviously not from having options. Also before you say he's famous, he was like that before he became famous, its not like he became famous and suddenly got really confident. 

Free from outcome is definitely not a myth, I've experienced it personally and generally do. A lot of the times, if you're going out, it's just building up that state l by talking to people, once you're in a good state you just want to have fun and are free from outcome. 

But believe what you want, it's whatever works for you. 

[Phil King]

1 hour ago, StarStruck said:

Orange is atheist 

You can be any religion at any stage, its not as simple as "All oranges are athiest." Something like A Course In Miracles is christianity from a stage yellow/turqiouse perspective. Sadhguru is like Hinduism at stage Turqoise. 

Also Owen is speaking about christianity from a higher perspective where he recognizes that its one of many holy books that you can draw wisdom from. He also talks about the Tao Te Ching and Buddhism. He is also aware of spiral dynamics and talked about it once in one of his seminars. In my opinion hes orange/green. 

Edited March 26 by Phil King

[Ryan M]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He was forced to. YouTube would have banned him.

He lost his whole company from JulienGate.

You guys don't understand how badly that hurt him. It's like he lost his baby.

I'm confused where JulienGate comes from because somehow Google knows it's Julien Blanc even though the keywords don't show up. Only typed without the space too lol

[RightHand]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Blue? Owen is lost in Orange.

His n°1 favorite book is the Bible. And he's into the Covid and New World Order conspiracies.

 

But I think that Owen could be labelled Yellow.

[Leo Gura]

To be fair to Owen, he's developed many aspects of himself across the Spiral, so we should not try to pigeonhole him too much.

I said Orange because he's so ambitous and business and success oriented. It's like he cannot just chill, he feels like a rat constantly running after more cheese to satisfy his ego's endless appetite for adventure, excitement, status, influence, sex, etc.

Of course he has spiritual qualities too.

Edited March 27 by Leo Gura

[StarStruck]

5 hours ago, Phil King said:

You can be any religion at any stage, its not as simple as "All oranges are athiest." Something like A Course In Miracles is christianity from a stage yellow/turqiouse perspective. Sadhguru is like Hinduism at stage Turqoise. 

Also Owen is speaking about christianity from a higher perspective where he recognizes that it’s one of many holy books that you can draw wisdom from. He also talks about the Tao Te Ching and Buddhism. He is also aware of spiral dynamics and talked about it once in one of his seminars. In my opinion hes orange/green. 

Pope recognizes all religions and even visits mosques. It is just for show where he quotes other books. Little song and dance to come off as a smart ass. No way he is SD green or even higher lol. He is too greedy and power hungry for that. His staff is still getting underpaid.  And the company culture is SD orange while Owen is more SD blue: things like his aversion to psychedelics is a clue for this.  

Edited March 27 by StarStruck

[Phil King]

@StarStruck There are many stage orange people who are averse to psychedelics, Like richard dawkins and neil degrasse tyson. Owen pays his staff incredibly well, there was a time when like all of the RSD instructors were making near a million per year. If you actually listen to Owen and try to discern his values, he does not align at all with stage blue. 

Also the current Pope is pretty progressive and pisses a lot of his stage blue followers off. It takes a very developed ego to become a leader of one billion people. Dont just assume stage blue when you hear someone talking about christianity

Edited March 27 by Phil King

[StarStruck]

@Phil King I didn’t say SD orange is pro psychedelics. Pro psychedelics start at SD green. Don’t look at things that black and white. SD spiral is like a spine: stronger at some points and weaker at other points. And Pope is definitely not SD orange lol. He is the pinnacle of SD blue. 

Edited March 27 by StarStruck

[Phil King]

2 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

I didn’t say SD orange is pro psychedelics

Neither did I. I was simply showing how an aversion to psychedelics is not an indicator of someone being stage blue. You were being black and white by saying that "orange is athiest"

Edited March 27 by Phil King