Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

But you said that it keeps ruling because it is the most effective force in the region. So according to this if it will be no longer a dominant player in the region, it will have better chance to be defeated from inside.

By region I mean Afghanistan. You gotta be the strongest force inside your borders. Forget outsiders.

Edited October 3 by Leo Gura

[zazen]

Even if people are right about a certain country needing to be changed for the better, that right belongs to those within that country. If outside forces attempt to make changes the people within that country who also want those changes will see it as an affront to their own rights and perceive it as imperialistic even if intentions are good.

Cultural practices evolve, but they do so on their own timeline, from the pressures and values of the people living within those cultures. The West’s selective outrage has nothing to do with principles and everything to do with control. Iran, like any other nation, will change in its own time, but that change belongs to the people of Iran, not to outsiders with their eyes on the region’s resources and strategic positioning.

It’s about geopolitics and power. Countries that don’t align with Western interests are vilified for their cultural practices, while allies get a free pass for similar or even worse practices. Saudi Arabia didn’t even allow women to drive until recently, yet they’re an ally and aren’t on the radar for regime change. Or take Thailand who have a longstanding open culture of lady boys and women prostituting themselves in tourist hotspots. Is the right wing of America gonna make a fuss about how they’re oppressing women and children’s eyes by exposing them to a culture that accepts and embraces trans culture? No, because Thailand isn’t of much importance strategically.

Edited October 3 by zazen

[Atb210201]

6 hours ago, royce said:

don't be so sure bro

Dude I'm living here everyday.

When I say most be sure that most people are like that.

Of course there are still lots of people on the opposite side too.

[Leo Gura]

@Atb210201 If Iran were invaded, even liberal Iranians would become outraged, patriotic, and want to fight off the invaders for violating their sovereignty. Especially an invader as shameless and bad faith as Netanyahu.

Can you imagine the Persians rolling over for Zionists who blew up 15,000 Muslim children? This is like surrendering to Nazis for them.

[Atb210201]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

 

As I understand roughly 20-30% of the Iranian are pro the regime but most of them against it.

This is a good estimate yes.

[Atb210201]

39 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Atb210201 If Iran were invaded, even liberal Iranians would become outraged, patriotic, and want to fight off the invaders for violating their sovereignty. Especially an invader as shameless and bad faith as Netanyahu.

Can you imagine the Persians rolling over for Zionists who blew up 15,000 Muslim children? This is like surrendering to Nazis for them.

Yes but right now they are not thinking like that.

Right now all they think about is how to get rid of this Islamic regime.

Whoever says these kinds of stuff to them they will just say anything is better than this.

And Persians are not that much of Muslims anymore maybe in the past we were much more of a Muslim country but after the Islamic Republic regime it has changed drastically for most of the people.

Lot of them even say we want zoroastrianism back and because Muslims have evaded our land Persia in the past and they were arabs and we were persians and they forced Islam on us we don't want Islam anymore we have our own rich culture and religion.

That's at least what lots and lots of people say.

These liberals I'm talking about don't even give a damn about Palestinians anymore either; whatever happens to them they say is not our concern we want our own nation to become secular and thrive.

And keep in mind these are most of the Iranians and the people in Iran right now.

Edited October 3 by Atb210201

[PurpleTree]

13 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

Yes but right now they are not thinking like that.

Right now all they think about is how to get rid of this Islamic regime.

Whoever says these kinds of stuff to them they will just say anything is better than this.

And Persians are not that much of Muslims anymore maybe in the past we were much more of a Muslim country but after the Islamic Republic regime it has changed drastically for most of the people.

Lot of them even say we want zoroastrianism back and because Muslims have evaded our land Persia in the past and they were arabs and we were persian and they forced Islam on us we don't want Islam anymore we have our own rich culture and religion.

That's at least what lots and lots of people say.

Another question.

Is it true that plastic surgery is very widespread in Iran? I heard it’s one of the countries with the most plastic surgery in the world together with Brasil, South Korea, Colombia etc.

[Atb210201]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Another question.

Is it true that plastic surgery is very widespread in Iran? I heard it’s one of the countries with the most plastic surgery in the world together with Brasil, South Korea, Colombia etc.

I don't know about plastic surgery.

If you're talking about what Jordan Peterson said about transgenders surgery being at a very high rate in Iran I have also heard that but I don't know about the truth of it.

Bur certainly nose job is very very widespread in Iran specially in women haha.

Edited October 3 by Atb210201

[PurpleTree]

7 minutes ago, Atb210201 said:

I don't know about plastic surgery.

If you're talking about what Jordan Peterson said about transgenders surgery being at a very high rate in Iran I have also heard that but I don't know about the truth of it.

Bur certainly nose job is very very widespread in Iran specially in women haha.

No i didn’t hear it from JP i learned from him about lobsters though.

I mean mostly nose jobs in women i guess.

 

[zazen]

New Gaza documentary by Al Jazeera:

From CNN's Amanpour:

''Lebanon’s Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib tells CNN that Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah had agreed to a 21-day ceasefire just before he was assassinated by Israel. The temporary ceasefire was called for by President Biden, President Macron and other allies during last week’s UNGA.'' - Similar to when Hamas head Ismail Hanieyh was assassinated during negotiations. 

 

Edited October 3 by zazen

[Inliytened1]

@zazen live by the sword die by the sword.  Maybe Hamas shouldn't have attacked Israel Oct 7.

 

[MarkKol]

On 02/10/2024 at 2:50 AM, Karmadhi said:

These people there are the equivalent of illegal immigrants.

In how many ways do you see illegal immigration as bad for your country? these people come to you for work not to shit in your streets—and not lucrative jobs either, the ones most Americans don't even prefer working, never mind expecting a fair salary. Partly it's the US's fault for the former word "illegal" because they make the legal immigration process so hard, the US, as a Western democracy isn't far from the same immigration rules as communist countries like Russia or China.

[Inliytened1]

3 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

Another question.

Is it true that plastic surgery is very widespread in Iran? I heard it’s one of the countries with the most plastic surgery in the world together with Brasil, South Korea, Colombia etc.

You would think the US would be at the top of the list - interesting.  I wonder why the women feel they have to look a certain way there.

Edited October 3 by Inliytened1

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You would think the US would be at the too of the list - interesting.  I wonder why the women feel they have to look a certain way there.

Type of beauty standards. They think smaller noses are cuter. When i was in Istanbul i saw so many women with bloody broken noses because of nose jobs (mostly arab i think)

And many guys with bloody scalps because of hair transplant.

In South Korea it’s often eye lid surgery i think.

I’m glad in Western Europe not that many women get plastic surgery.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Type of beauty standards. They think smaller noses are cuter. When i was in Istanbul i saw so many women with bloody broken noses because of nose jobs (mostly arab i think)

And many guys with bloody scalps because of hair transplant.

In South Korea it’s often eye lid surgery i think.

I’m glad in Western Europe not that many women get plastic surgery.

Yeah what country are you in?

[Nemra]

15 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

When i was in Istanbul i saw so many women with bloody broken noses because of nose jobs (mostly arab i think)

Broken nose is a Caucasian thing. 😁

Edited October 3 by Nemra

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yeah what country are you in?

I can’t tell you, countries are just a thought 😇

But it’s one of those Sweden, Norway, Switzerland, Denmark, Netherlands, Austria

[PurpleTree]

19 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Broken nose is a Caucasian thing. 😁

Why? 🤔 

[Inliytened1]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Is there any doubt that Netanyahu has a 300-page covert plan in his desk to goad Iran into a war and then cry self-defense?

He jerks off to that plan every night, floating in a bathtub full of matzah balls, wearing a shtreimel.

Dude.. who attacked who here.  Iran backed the attack on Israel.  Just live with the fact that Israel can now stand up for itself and has a superpower behind it.  You guys can cry all you want but it isn't you that sheds tears when entering a Holacaust museum.  If you've even been to one I'd be surprised. 

[PurpleTree]

17 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Dude.. who attacked who here.  Iran backed the attack on Israel.  Just live with the fact that Israel can now stand up for itself and has a superpower behind it.  You guys can cry all you want but it isn't you that sheds tears when entering a Holacaust museum.  If you've even been to one I'd be surprised. 

That’s seemingly going to drag the US and maybe England etc. into a war though. Because Israel is already fighting on a few fronts and Iran is another animal.