Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, PurpleTree said:

Well it’s reality 

Why do the Palestinians resort to violence and not resolve it politically?

Why do Mulims in Europe often integrate worse than many other people?

Why does the sky look blue?

Why why why

why is a silly question. Better accept reality.

According to this forum It's justified here because of how evil Israel is and how they oppress the Palestinians leaving them no choice.

[Karmadhi]

13 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Germany was split too.

And they lost over 4 Million civilians.

Dresden and such.

Many many many women raped.

Clownery…

They did because of the barbarity they did to Europeans including 27 million Soviets killed out of 17 were civilians.

They lost land to Poland after basically killing 17% of its population and razing the capital.

Not to mention they bombed the shit out of London and other cities which lead to UK bombing them back.

Issue is that all those things you wrote have nothing to do with the Holocaust.

Why didnt Germany give land for a Jewish state?

Why make it in Palestine, who was innocent during WW2?

Clownery indeed...

[Karmadhi]

5 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

why is a silly question. Better accept reality.

Reality is that you will keep getting terrorist attacks more in the future and the entire world hates Israel now.

If you want to talk about reality.

[Raze]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

According to this forum It's justified here because of how evil Israel is and how they oppress the Palestinians leaving them no choice.

Why don’t you actually consider the Palestinian perspective just one time? 

[PurpleTree]

10 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

 

Why didnt Germany give land for a Jewish state?

Why make it in Palestine, who was innocent during WW2?

It’s like groundhogs day with you guys.

How many times are you going to ask the same question?

[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Raze said:

Why don’t you actually consider the Palestinian perspective just one time? 

I think I certainly did in my response to @Lyubov in the other thread.  I literally looked at it from his perspective and i shed tears.   But the whole thing about stolen land (no one owns land) and how they will never allow the Palestinians to be a welcomed part of Israel - that's really just speculation.  But that's what current perception is.  And I can see that being true in the regard that they hold their religion so closely.  So ultimately defending Israel is a losing battle i said this before.   I just think that demonizing them isn't the answer either.  Let's learn from this and hopefully the Jewish people will do the right thing in the end.

[PurpleTree]

15 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Reality is that you will keep getting terrorist attacks more in the future and the entire world hates Israel now.

If you want to talk about reality.

And that’s fine.

Although that’s also just an opinion.

I was in Athens this year and did a walking guided tour.

There were these two older Israeli women who came to the guided tour they were teachers, they were so cute honestly they came directly to the walking tour without sleeping. Not cute in looks but just so friendly. I met a turkish guy he also thought they were so cute. There was a german woman on the tour and she started to argue with the two Isrseli women about the war. It was decent and it was good.

[Karmadhi]

10 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

There were these two older Israeli women who came to the guided tour they were teachers, they were so cute honestly they came directly to the walking tour without sleeping. Not cute in looks but just so friendly. I met a turkish guy he also thought they were so cute. There was a german woman on the tour and she started to argue with the two Isrseli women about the war. It was decent and it was good.

Of course if you act nice and kind people will be nice to you.

It is retarded to treat everyone from a country bad.

But Israeli nationalism is totally frowned upon these days and if you spur out the stuff you spur on this forum in the real world, people will shame you and criticise you.

I also know Russians where I live in the west of Europe which get treated well and everything.

They are against Putin and the war.

People got no issues with them.

It is racist to treat someone bad just because of where they are from, that applies to Israelis too.

Although general hatred towards Jews and Israelis has increased, there is no doubt in that.

 

[hundreth]

2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

Why didnt those Jews go via immigration to Palestine and then they could have elections or any of the other things.

There were plenty of Jews in other Arab states living with the locals peacefully.

Why create a jew state in the first place?

And why create it in such a terroristic way?

They did immigrate and this caused a ton of conflict. The Arabs were against more Jewish immigration. 

Obviously given everything going on around that time in Europe, Jews felt it was necessary to have a Jewish state to avoid persecution. They were right in a sense, given that a few years after Zionism began the holocaust was started. 

In fact, Jews were not allowed to emigrate almost anywhere and in very small numbers. Even the United States blocked the immigration of Jews during this time.

Why in a terroristic way, you act like these Jews get their jollies off harming others. They had a goal, unfortunately they had to resort to any means necessary to make it happen. Is it right? No. But given the context you can see how European Jews from that era weren't operating with fairness as their primary concern.

Edited October 8 by hundreth

[Raze]

 

[Karmadhi]

5 hours ago, hundreth said:

They did immigrate and this caused a ton of conflict. The Arabs were against more Jewish immigration. 

Obviously given everything going on around that time in Europe, Jews felt it was necessary to have a Jewish state to avoid persecution. They were right in a sense, given that a few years after Zionism began the holocaust was started. 

In fact, Jews were not allowed to emigrate almost anywhere and in very small numbers. Even the United States blocked the immigration of Jews during this time.

Everything you wrote is about Europe and USA being assholes to Jews.

Why wasnt Israel founded in Europe?

Since they seem to be the assholes here, not Palestinians.

The fundamental issue I have with this whole debate is that 90% of all hardships Jews faced historically were done by Europeans. Yet, Arabs are the ones suffering because of Jews.

Cant you see how unfair that is?

Edited October 8 by Karmadhi

[PurpleTree]

29 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Why wasnt Israel founded in Europe?

Zionists wanted back to Jerusalem.

[Leo Gura]

34 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Why wasnt Israel founded in Europe?

Because Europe was too developed to let them.

They needed a place which was politically weak, which couldn't effectively resist them.

Edited October 8 by Leo Gura

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Because Europe was too developed to let them.

They needed a place which was politically weak, which couldn't effectively resist them.

Uganda and others were also up for debate. But they wanted Jerusalem. Mount Zion baby.

For obvious reasons, history, bible, connection, support of religious people etc.

 

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Uganda and others were also up for debate. But they wanted Jerusalem.

Of course. Who the hell wants to move to Uganda?

Edited October 8 by Leo Gura

[Raze]

 

[PurpleTree]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course. Who the hell wants to move Uganda?

I mean they could have built a Singapore there. Maybe it would have turned out similar eventually with people fighting back though. And there wouldn‘t have been support anyway. 

[Leo Gura]

Crusty white people are not gonna live in Uganda. They would melt.

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Crusty white people are not gonna live in Uganda. They would melt.

Tell that to Australians. Australia would have actually been a decent place for Israel it’s also deserty and stuff.

[royce]

This Guy has a remarkably deep understanding of what's happening in the Middle East.

1:53:38

https://rumble.com/v5hv8n9-america-first-ep.-1401.html

 

Edited October 8 by royce