Israel / Palestine News Thread

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I say defeat Russia take some of their land and build a new Palestine or Israel there 🦭 and make it like Singapore rich and nice

But Jerusalem will be open for both (or all) tribes. And international city not belonging to any country.

[Davino]

I've been reflecting on the Jew psyche. I wonder if the persecution they've faced from the Babylonian exile to the Holocaust has caused a transgenerational trauma in their people. Making them act in unhealthy ways. I'm just contemplating to which extent this has shaped their mind.

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Davino said:

the Holocaust has caused a transgenerational trauma in their people.

Absolutely. Some of them indoctrinate their children with photographs of the Holocaust from as early as 4 years old. It is a huge part of their individual and collective identities.

Edited October 5 by Leo Gura

[Nemra]

1 hour ago, Davino said:

I've been reflecting on the Jew psyche. I wonder if the persecution they've faced from the Babylonian exile to the Holocaust has caused a transgenerational trauma in their people. Making them act in unhealthy ways. I'm just contemplating to which extent this has shaped their mind.

I don't know much about Jews, but I have direct experience seeing how people are indoctrinated because of a genocide that happened to their elders a century ago. It deeply affects people's thinking. I often feel like an alien to them and vice versa, as I don't try to depend on them too much, or more like a familiar alien.

[Raze]

2 hours ago, Davino said:

I've been reflecting on the Jew psyche. I wonder if the persecution they've faced from the Babylonian exile to the Holocaust has caused a transgenerational trauma in their people. Making them act in unhealthy ways. I'm just contemplating to which extent this has shaped their mind.

 

Edited October 5 by Raze

[Dabidoe]

@Leo Gura Passing along intergenerational trauma and collective paranoia is abosultely part of Jewish culture and is all over the Talmud, oral history and modern Jewish/Israeli culture. 

Remembering the pain of the past is in of our religious rituals. Dipping parsley in saltwater to remember the tears. Jewish mothers are notoriously overbearing and fearful, passing down the collective paranoia embroiled in modern Jewish culture. Our culture perpetuates a shared identity of persecution, largely why Jews were very supportive of civil rights - fighting against oppression is core to our identity.
 
There are many aspects of our traditions designed to instill paranoia passed down about all the oppression. Paranoia is not without it's usefulness ("Only the paranoid survive".) Despite how "powerful" some claim jews are there's still plenty of rational reasons to be paranoid. Plenty of hate and oppression for jews all over the world despite success in America and Israel. 

 Netanyahu and the zealots are so collectively paranoid/fearful of the annhilation of the entire Jewish people that they've decided to recreate the disastrous interventionist wars of the early 2000's. Israel is essentially an extension of the US military - it would have been demolished without international support given how many countries/people want them dead. Israel is very important to the US war machine and people have to pull their head out of their asses thinking it's just some "country we're giving foreign aid to." Israel is the size of New Jersey, has no real natural resources bunch of dried up rock.

Israeli military behaves with same brutality and brashness as the US military, breaking all sorts of International codes of justice/international law when it can reframe initiating ideological warfare as fighting terrorists. We don't give a crap about bombing the hell out of our enemies, or going way out of our way to sabotage anyone who comes close to challenging our supremacy. 

Edited October 5 by Dabidoe

[Raze]

 

[Nivsch]

The Israeli twitts-tree 🐦🌲 Israelis translated twitts.

Edited October 5 by Nivsch

[royce]

@Nivsch you posting  nonsense . you're ruining the topic with your shitty low quality  translated tweets 

[Karmadhi]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Absolutely. Some of them indoctrinate their children with photographs of the Holocaust from as early as 4 years old. It is a huge part of their individual and collective identities.

It is interesting that Armenians which went through a brutal genocide themselves during WW1, do not have this victim identity that Jews have from the holocaust.

Nor do they get much sympathy from the world unlike Jews.

How come?

I mean ok, Holocaust was 6 times more people but 1-1.5 million killed is not peanuts.

Also similar proportion of the population were killed in the Armenian genocide as with the Holocaust.

 

[Karmadhi]

By the way does Israel get a kick out of bombing hospitals in every war they fight or?

I saw they are bombing hospitals in South Lebanon and killing medial staff there too.

Why?

[PurpleTree]

8 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

The Israeli twitts-tree 🐦🌲 all twitts are translated from hebrew.

What’s sad is that western governments mostly don’t care about these protests and keep supporting Bibi (mostly US, UK, Germany etc.)

[Raze]

2 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

By the way does Israel get a kick out of bombing hospitals in every war they fight or?

I saw they are bombing hospitals in South Lebanon and killing medial staff there too.

Why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahiya_doctrine

[royce]

oh 

https://x.com/N12News/status/1842631718932767173

 

[Heaven]

2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

It is interesting that Armenians which went through a brutal genocide themselves during WW1, do not have this victim identity that Jews have from the holocaust.

Nor do they get much sympathy from the world unlike Jews.

How come?

I mean ok, Holocaust was 6 times more people but 1-1.5 million killed is not peanuts.

Also similar proportion of the population were killed in the Armenian genocide as with the Holocaust.

 

It’s more interesting how Palestinians have a victim mentality and they never experienced any real war before. 
 

Free Gaza from Hamas.

Free Lebanon from Hizbualla.

Free Iran from this dictatorship.

 

[Heaven]

2 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

What’s sad is that western governments mostly don’t care about these protests and keep supporting Bibi (mostly US, UK, Germany etc.)

Bibi isn’t the one to blame here. Even if he would sign the deal, it wouldn’t matter. Sinuar got what he wants and will never ceasefire 

[Leo Gura]

19 minutes ago, Heaven said:

they never experienced any real war before. 

15,000 children bombed in the last year. More bombs dropped than on cities in Nazi Germany.

Edited October 5 by Leo Gura

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Heaven said:

Bibi isn’t the one to blame here. Even if he would sign the deal, it wouldn’t matter. Sinuar got what he wants and will never ceasefire 

Bibi has been trash for ever.

[Heaven]

34 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

15,000 children bombed in the last year. More bombs dropped than on cities in Nazi Germany.

It’s very sad. But the blame is on Hamas/their parents.

@PurpleTree Lol. I’m curious who do you think will do better?

Edited October 5 by Heaven

[Raze]