Israel / Palestine News Thread

[PurpleTree]

8 minutes ago, hundreth said:

Unclear, I'm trying to find out.

So far the only source for this is "Military Watch Magazine"... which as it turns out appears to be an Iranian publication.

If they did pull it off, it would indeed be a big deal.

Yea i doubt it

Israel would probably protect their best planes better.

[zazen]

Good thing I noted it as apparent news and not confirmed. Saw that in a few places on twitter, MSN news and Military Watch Magazine - claimed by Iran and probably circulated. They hit Nevatim air base where they house F 35's, so that must be the reason behind the claims - but Israel could have moved them out of sight.

Not much media coming out of Israel regarding last night, possibly a black out or restriction on sharing any images/videos..All eyes instead on the North at the Lebanon border from this morning where their are IDF casualties.

Can't believe Sky News let him on and speak that long

Edited October 2 by zazen

[Sandhu]

46 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

If neutralizing nuclear capabilities of a stage red-blue regime that offers to its citizens

Stay assured, you'll regret the neutralization when the terrorist regime come hunting the Jews. They are extremists and will not hesitate to go to any length and attack cities when an all out war starts, I hope you'll be alive and here defending radical Zionist propaganda after this happens.

[Nivsch]

6 minutes ago, Sandhu said:

Stay assured, you'll regret the neutralization when the terrorist regime come hunting the Jews. They are extremists and will not hesitate to go to any length and attack cities when an all out war starts, I hope you'll be alive and here defending radical Zionist propaganda after this happens.

This isn't to defend Right Wingers that their ideology isn't interesting me, but to keep a dangerous entity away from such abilities.

Edited October 2 by Nivsch

[PurpleTree]

Just now, Nivsch said:

This isn't to defend Right Wingers that their ideology isn't interesting me, but to keep a dangerous entity away from such weapon.

And how are you going to do that?

[Sandhu]

2 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

This isn't to defend Right Wingers that their ideology isn't interesting me, but to keep a dangerous entity away from such weapon.

You think you can? And it'll not create all other different problems. You'll infuriate Iran and no one can destroy the progress that they have already made in nuclear weapons.

[Lyubov]

15 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

This isn't to defend Right Wingers that their ideology isn't interesting me, but to keep a dangerous entity away from such abilities.

The thing is they are dangerous to Israel because of Israel’s colonialism and breaking the two state solution. Iran I don’t think is inherently dangerous if Israel actually sowed for peace and spent decades actually trying to normalize relations like they did with Egypt and Jordan. So yes Iran is now a huge threat to Israel but why you think that is? 

Edited October 2 by Lyubov

[Nivsch]

1 hour ago, Lyubov said:

The thing is they are dangerous to Israel because of Israel’s colonialism and breaking the two state solution. Iran I don’t think is inherently dangerous if Israel actually sowed for peace and spent decades actually trying to normalize relations like they did with Egypt and Jordan. So yes Iran is now a huge threat to Israel but why you think that is? 

Because this regime's ideology and set of values from them Israel seen to him as a total stranger that contradicts their religous perception for the region. At a similar way to ISIS that everyone who aren't soonies stand in the way of their religious vision.

Edited October 2 by Nivsch

[Socrates]

Every media is bought, every  EU leader is also on payroll, and Israel has infiltrated every major government, news station, and power position in the world especially America. This gives them the perfect leverage to continue committing war crimes in silence while screaming and shouting about self-defense on the slightest pushback. Watch any mainstream news in Europe and everyone portrays Israel as the victim, pathetic. The devil itself couldn't do it so masterfully.
 

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

And how are you going to do that?

You almost never answer these questions @Nivsch

[Nivsch]

7 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

You almost never answer these questions @Nivsch

But how I can know how to destroy nuclear facilities? 🤷‍♂️🏔🏭🇮🇷

It is only possible with Israel and US together.

Edited October 2 by Nivsch

[hundreth]

It does seem like only a matter of time until Iran eventually does get nuclear weapons. It seems Netanyahu and some higher up U.S. officials are pushing for regime change in Iran. This is what I think they are banking on. If they can delay nukes until a new regime is in place, it may not be as looming of a threat.

Do I think this will work? Not really. We've seen what regime change entails. Rarely does it end well.

Edited October 2 by hundreth

[PurpleTree]

4 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

But how I can know how to destroy nuclear facilities? 🤷‍♂️🏔🏭🇮🇷

It is only possible with Israel and US together.

And then after that they can’t rebuild it?

It just seems impossible wishful thinking  to forever keep Iran a non nuclear power, it’s a big country with capable people.

[LoseYourvelf]

3 hours ago, Husseinisdoingfine said:

They did not destroy any jets.

According to the Wikipedia article, the only casualty was a Palestinian man.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_2024_Iranian_strikes_against_Israel

On 23/09/2024 at 9:00 AM, Leo Gura said:

The Soviet KGB assassinated the Afghan president, infiltrated Afghanistan with Marxist propaganda and spies, and astroturfed a Marxist revolution in a deeply Islamic nation, forcing Afghan girls into schools. They forced secularism down the Afghan's throats, violating many local norms and customs.

There was nothing natural about Marxism in Afghanistan. The KGB tried to turn Afghanistan into a Communist police state in the fashion of Uncle Stalin.

And then the Islamists fought them back with help from the CIA. Jihad was declared against the evil Communists, hunting down and hacking to death dozens of Communist Soviet advisors, as well as their wives and children, displaying their corspes on pikes along city streets, so hated were the Communists.

Soviet leadership in the Kremlin themselves admitted that socialism is incapable of resolving Afghanistan's Islamic fundamentalist problem. The head of the KGB said that Afghanistan is too backward for Lenin's philosophy to work.

Dude... friendly fire

Edited October 2 by LoseYourvelf

[PurpleTree]

13 minutes ago, hundreth said:

It does seem like only a matter of time until Iran eventually does get nuclear weapons. It seems Netanyahu and some higher up U.S. officials are pushing for regime change in Iran. This is what I think they are banking on. If they can delay nukes until a new regime is in place, it may not be as looming of a threat.

Do I think this will work? Not really. We've seen what regime change entails. Rarely does it end well.

Yea 20 years after regime change in Iraq they’re still not "friendly" and democratic 

 

[Atb210201]

2 hours ago, Lyubov said:

The thing is they are dangerous to Israel because of Israel’s colonialism and breaking the two state solution. Iran I don’t think is inherently dangerous if Israel actually sowed for peace and spent decades actually trying to normalize relations like they did with Egypt and Jordan. So yes Iran is now a huge threat to Israel but why you think that is? 

I don't think Iran believes Israel has any right over that land or any right to be a sovereign state there.

Here we even have countdown billboards in some places that count the days to the annihilation of Israel according to what the supreme leader of Iran said years ago.

Edited October 2 by Atb210201

[Lyubov]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

Because this regime's ideology and set of values from them Israel seen to him as a total stranger that contradicts their religous perception for the region. At a similar way to ISIS that everyone who aren't soonies stand in the way of their religious vision.

Israel didn’t exist until the 1940s and before that it was a colonial refugee camp backed by the British Empire. It’s Europeans who kinda have distant ancestors that lived there over 800 years ago. Israel is the one ethnically cleansing the region of the natives. 

[Nivsch]

4 minutes ago, Lyubov said:

Israel didn’t exist until the 1940s and before that it was a colonial refugee camp backed by the British Empire. It’s Europeans who kinda have distant ancestors that lived there over 800 years ago. Israel is the one ethnically cleansing the region of the natives. 

Jews lived here for Millenia and than deportated to an another Millenia and a half.

Edited October 2 by Nivsch

[Raze]

31 minutes ago, hundreth said:

It does seem like only a matter of time until Iran eventually does get nuclear weapons. It seems Netanyahu and some higher up U.S. officials are pushing for regime change in Iran. This is what I think they are banking on. If they can delay nukes until a new regime is in place, it may not be as looming of a threat.

Do I think this will work? Not really. We've seen what regime change entails. Rarely does it end well.

It’s only a matter of time because both Israel and the US are constantly threatening them. Iran has offered to remove their ability to make nukes multiple times and been rebuffed. It’s insane to frame Iran as crazy when everyone can see what the US does to countries that don’t have nukes like Iraq or Libya. 

[Lyubov]

Iran is easily contained. I don’t deny states with resources and fundamentalist worldviews tend to turn towards conquest. I’m not trying to pain Iran as some saint that is above what Israel is doing. But that doesn’t excuse Israel and their constant undermining. It’s difficult to even argue in Israel’s favor except for the fact of creating a huge humanitarian crisis by moving all those people. And Israelis think Gaza is supposed to move all those people to Europe and other Arab countries. Insane what these people believe.