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Israel / Palestine News Thread

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5 minutes ago, royce said:

@PurpleTree You are acting like my gf, haha

It’s fine hehe I just found out i’m not interested in arguing with you 🦭

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2 hours ago, royce said:

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How come you are still in the forum?

You should have been banned a long time ago.

You post and quote threatening stuff about a certain country.

You disrespect yourself, the most.

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3 hours ago, royce said:

be humble , sit down

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Wtf. An execution list? How lower do you want to go?

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2 hours ago, Heaven said:

These recent moves by Iran attacking Israel directly, is a clear sign of the weakness of the US government. Biden threaten Iran more than once but never acts.
I know that most here are against Trump but Kamala seems even weaker than Biden.

Why should the US aid you? You are the one at war, fight it yourself.

If you cannot fight it then try to make peace.

Bullying others then crying to Big Daddy USA when you cannot defeat the enemy is deplorable.

Now you may say, "They keep attacking us"; what choice we got?

End the war in Gaza for once.

If they keep bombing, then we will empathise with you a bit more.

Oh yeah, also kick out these guys and bring them back to Israel.

As of January 2023, there are 144 Israeli settlements in the West Bank, including 12 in East Jerusalem.[29] In addition, there are over 100 Israeli illegal outposts (not sanctioned by the Israeli government) in the West Bank. In total, over 500,000 Israeli settlers live in the West Bank excluding East Jerusalem,[60][61] with an additional 220,000 Jewish settlers residing in East Jerusalem.[30][31]

Additionally, over 20,000 Israeli citizens live in settlements in the Golan Heights.[62][63]

These people there are the equivalent of illegal immigrants.

Cant you see how hard it is for us to empathise with you when you keep doing this bullshit.

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What in the hell is going to happen...

Tired of this old ass shit fucking catching up to us. When will this shit end and peace return to the land. 

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1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:

These people there are the equivalent of illegal immigrants.

It's much worse than illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants don't try to grab land for their native country.

It's a deliberate weaponization of immigration, with military, financial, and political support from the state.

Imagine if the American government paid 500,000 US citizens to move south of the border, build little cities, and then build exclusive super highways back to the US. And then the US military patrolled those highways shooting any Mexicans who protested and bulldozed their houses.

It's like a growing fungus.

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11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

t's much worse than illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants don't try to grab land for their native country.

It's a deliberate weaponization of immigration, with military, financial, and political support from the state.

Imagine if the American government paid 500,000 US citizens to move south of the border, build little cities, and then build exclusive super highways back to the US. And then the US military patrolled those highways shooting any Mexicans who protested and bulldozed their houses.

It's like a growing fungus.

Agreed, good analogy.

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The Israelis that live in all those settlements too are radical as all hell. You got to be kinda crazy to basically set your house up on "no man's land" in the sense of it being basically where a ground war will be fought. A more centrist cabinet couldn't move those people if they tried.

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@Karmadhi Golan Heights are a quite different story but on most of the West Bank territory I can agree with you.

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I love how Leo is trying to show biases and understand each POV rather than argue for a side lol

Good job Leo


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Whatever direction its caravans may take,
For love is my religion and my faith.

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Last time Iran responded in April (to the consulate attack in Syria killing members of the IRGC) they gave advance notice and sent their less capable missiles and drones so that the West had enough time to intercept them. They just needed to put on a show to save face and not escalate the situation by not killing anyone - they still targeted a installation to show their capability of precision and ability to penetrate the iron dome. This was to demonstrate, not to annihilate.

Likewise, no casualties have been reported so far in this retaliation. For this response they gave no such warning and used much more capable munitions to send a message. They penetrated the Iron Dome and struck various bases including Nevatim air base which is where Israel receives US bombs that are taking countless lives - and where apparently 20 F-35 jets have been destroyed. 

This is a response to escalatory actions from Israel. Israel rains down bombs, launches assassinations, threatens incursions into Lebanon, spills actual blood on foreign soil - and when Iran dares to flex its capabilities without shedding blood or wounding anyone, suddenly their the ones who are the aggressors - primitive, savage bloodthirsty people from backward cultures. This restraint is twisted by the media machine as defeat and weakness and lauded as a show of Western supremacy and strength.

Besides a decades long occupation and what we have seen in one year in Gaza, in just the two previous weeks of a new front in Lebanon the following occurred:

''More than 1,000 people have been killed and about 6,000 wounded as a result of Israeli strikes, Lebanon’s Health Ministry has said. And about 1 million Lebanese people have been displaced'' - Al Jazeera.

The Wests collective supremacist ego that demands global dominance won't let them just cool their jets and come to the negotiating table, instead their now salivating over this as a golden opportunity to 'change the face of the Middle East forever' and rid it of 'terrorists'. Talks of attacking Iran nuclear sites, punishing Iran and even attacking oil facilities - as if none of these will throw the region, if not the world into a tail spin of hyper inflation, chaos and bloodshed.

Former Israeli PM Naftali Bennet's tweet:

''Israel has now its greatest opportunity in 50 years, to change the face of the Middle East. The leadership of Iran, which used to be good at chess, made a terrible mistake this evening. We must act *now* to destroy Iran’s nuclear program, its central energy facilities, and to fatally cripple this terrorist regime.''

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32 minutes ago, zazen said:

and where apparently 20 F-35 jets have been destroyed. 

Is this really true? Source?

That's a huge win for them if true.


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1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Is this really true? Source?

That's a huge win for them if true.

Unclear, I'm trying to find out.

So far the only source for this is "Military Watch Magazine"... which as it turns out appears to be an Iranian publication.

If they did pull it off, it would indeed be a big deal.

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@zazen If neutralizing nuclear capabilities of a stage red-blue regime that offers to its citizens nothing but oppression and terror is still seen as a problem, it proves that the issue was never solely about Palestinians or Civilians from any specific nation, but rather mainly a deeper psychological or spiritual perceptions against Israel and the West in general, regardless of what the latter may or may not have done.

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🌻 Thinking independently about the spiral stages themselves is important for going through them in an organic, efficient way. If you stick to an external idea about how a stage should be you lose touch with its real self customized process trying to happen inside you.

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