Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, integration journey said:

@Raze I’ll read the articles but from what I know is that Israel wanted Assad to stay in power because why would Israel not want a weak country next to it? Assad is a weak president and Israel would prefer for him to stay. Israel doesn’t care about peace in Syria. And  about the rebels I’m not sure, When you have Russia, the US, Assad and Iran against you, what options do you have? From my knowledge the rebels had the chance to cooperate with Israel and refused so that it doesn’t count against them but I’ll read the articles. 
what happened in Syria initially was a revolution against tyranny. Assad needed to go because he made the country so much worse. 

Don't let him deter you from the facts that you stated.  Hezbollah or should i say Hellzbollah, is responsible for the destruction of many cities and has massacred many.  They deserve what Israel is giving them.  

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[Raze]

 

[Karmadhi]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Or maybe the problem is that he cares too much.

So did Hitler about Germans.

The two leaders are quite similar in a lot of ways.

Bibi version of Israeli security is to wipe out everyone around Israel to ensure Israel has nobody to attack it.

Bibi makes Putin look soft in comparison.

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[Karmadhi]

18 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

They deserve what Israel is giving them.  

And IDF deserves what Hamas and Hezbollah gave them.

Two devils co destroying each other.

Win for the world.

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[Raze]

 

[Inliytened1]

28 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

So did Hitler about Germans.

The two leaders are quite similar in a lot of ways.

 

 

 

I can tell you one way they aren't similar.  I don't think Netanyahu is going to be ordering Jews to gas camps    in fact if he ordered any race to gas camps i would see your point of view.  But he's not a sick monster.  Yeah maybe he's aggressive but he's not looking to erase all gentiles.  So please  - shelve the Hitler comparisons.

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[Leo Gura]

Netanyahu may not be genocidal but plenty of his ministers and constituents are.

Keep in mind, there are many degrees of genocide. Not all genocide is sending people into gas chambers. That kind of cartoonish blatant level of genocide is impossible today, but subtler, sneakier forms of genocide are still possible -- and we have solid video evidence of some Israelis both calling for it and personally doing it. The entire Israeli government across the board is not genocidal, but some key members of it are.

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[Inliytened1]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Netanyahu may not be genocidal but plenty of his ministers and constituents are.

Keep in mind, there are many degrees of genocide. Not all genocide is sending people into gas chambers. That kind of cartoonish blatant level of genocide is impossible today, but subtler, sneakier forms of genocide are still possible.

Jesus are you guys really comparing this guy to Hitler?  Fuck it.  All bets are off I guess. I think its nuts that you guys would even entertain that .

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[Leo Gura]

11 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Jesus are you guys really comparing this guy to Hitler?  Fuck it.  All bets are off I guess.

Why are you so black & white about this? You are intelligent enough to understand that devilry comes in many degrees. Ethnic cleansing comes in many degrees. Abuse of power comes in many degrees. Corruption comes in many degrees. War crimes come in many degrees.

There is an obvious and objective similarity between all ultra-nationalist people. Hitler was ultra-nationalist and so is a portion of the Israel population. Crimes against Palestinians have been done by ultra-nationalist Israelis. There is no denying this. And there's no denying that far-right nationalist ideology has a big influence on Israeli government policy.

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[royce]

The use of power has become limitless, and the conflict between the axes is crossing all lines. The options for everyone are stark – either accept defeat and exit the playing field or engage in an open and bloody confrontation.

There are indications of a lack of strategic courage in the axis led by Iran, which has created a state of chaos in the region and excessively used its proxies for political calculations. At a crucial moment, it has failed to defend or protect them.

The upcoming strike will be in Tehran, targeting high-ranking figures. Before that, names in Sana'a, Damascus, and Baghdad have been added to the list

 

[royce]

14 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Jesus are you guys really comparing this guy to Hitler

guys,  compare Netanyahu to Kendrick Lamar

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[Inliytened1]

13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why are you so black & white about this? You are intelligent enough to understand that devilry comes in many degrees. Ethnic cleansing comes in many degrees. Abuse of power comes in many degrees. Corruption comes in many degrees. War crimes come in many degrees.

There is an obvious and objective similarity between all ultra-nationalist people. Hitler was ultra-nationalist and so is a portion of the Israel population. Crimes against Palestinians have been done by ultra-nationalist Israelis. There is no denying this.

Degrees.  Exactly.   And Israel's leadership is no where near that degree.   At least not yet.  When Israel tells their occupied countries' women and children that they are going for a train ride only to line thém up for a firing squad then I think you can start to talk about this.  But Israel right now is simply trying to subdue it's foes and declare dominance in the region because it's tired of the constant threat of attack on their homeland and civilians.   It's a far cry from Nazi Germany. Ethnic cleansing isn't even on the table yet. 

 

 

 

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[Raze]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Degrees.  Exactly.   And Israel's leadership is no where near that degree.   At least not yet.  When Israel tells their occupied countries' women and children that they are going for a train ride only to line thé up for a firing squad then I think you can start to talk about this.  But Israel right now is simply trying to subdue it's foes and declare dominance in the region because it's tired of the constant threat of attack on their homeland and civilians.   It's a far cry from Nazi Germany. Ethnic cleansing isn't even on the table yet. 

What about these two videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqzE4hkuee4
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fP-J8m-BF0

 

[royce]

 

2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

Degrees.  Exactly.   And Israel's leadership is no where near that degree.   At least not yet.  When Israel tells their occupied countrie'sI women and children that they are going for train ride only to line thé up for a firing squad then I think you can start to talk about this.  But Israel right now is simply trying to subdue it's foes and declare dominance in the region because it's tired of the constant threat of attack on their homeland and civilians.   It's a far cry from Nazi Germany. Ethnic cleansing isn't even on the table yet. 

 

 

 

I think it's a survival strategy for the Israelis to avoid considering the situation from a humanitarian perspective.

In your minds, Hitler is seen as the ultimate evil, so any comparison between your leadership and him seems outrageous to you . However, it's a valid comparison, and personally, I believe that Hitler is a better person than your Bibi.

 

 

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[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ethnic cleansing isn't even on the table yet. 

Israel has been doing ethnic cleansing  for 80 years. You can see it in the documentaries I posted on my blog this week.

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[royce]

@Inliytened1  By the way, Netanyahu said that Hitler originally intended only to expel the Jews, but a Palestinian figure convinced him to burn them, implying that Hitler wasn’t inherently bad and was influenced by external persuasion.

 

Check the vedio  

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2015/oct/21/binyamin-netanyahu-palestinian-holocaust-video

[Raze]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Israel has been doing ethnic cleansing  for 80 years. You can see it in the documentaries I posted on my blog this week.

That’s the West Bank, he’s talking about Gaza.

[Karmadhi]

50 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Jesus are you guys really comparing this guy to Hitler?  Fuck it.  All bets are off I guess. I think its nuts that you guys would even entertain that .

Are you from Israel or something?

You seem quite triggered about the criticism of Israel.

[Inliytened1]

@Raze  dude- we are talking about Hitler ordering the extinction of the entire  jewish people - leaving to the death of six million Jews.  How can you compare this to one family being killed here?

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[Raze]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Raze  dude- we are talking about Hitler ordering the extinction of the entire  jewish people - leaving to the death of six million Jews.  How can you compare this to one family being killed here?

1) I was comparing it to “When Israel tells their occupied countries' women and children that they are going for a train ride only to line thé up for a firing squad”

2) has only one family been killed in Gaza?