Israel / Palestine News Thread

[Nivsch]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C_-Qh5BgZwk/?igsh=MTVvM21xdmltdHMxdA==

[Raze]

Edited September 17 by Raze

[hundreth]

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/dozens-hezbollah-members-wounded-lebanon-when-pagers-exploded-sources-witnesses-2024-09-17/

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BEIRUT, Sept 17 (Reuters) - More than 1,000 people, including Hezbollah fighters and medics, were wounded on Tuesday when the pagers they use to communicate exploded across Lebanon, security sources told Reuters.

A Hezbollah official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the detonation of the pagers was the "biggest security breach" the group had been subjected to in nearly a year of war with Israel.

Hezbollah's testicles are exploding.

[Nivsch]

Edited September 17 by Nivsch

[Raze]

 

[hundreth]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

Here comes the spin... attack which surgically targets hezbollah militants -> "first confirmed death: 10 year old girl"

Which isn't even true.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hezbollah-member-son-of-terror-group-mp-said-killed-in-pager-explosion-girl-also-killed/

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Hezbollah member, son of terror group MP, said killed in pager explosion

 

[Raze]

21 minutes ago, hundreth said:

Here comes the spin... attack which surgically targets hezbollah militants -> "first confirmed death: 10 year old girl"

Which isn't even true.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/hezbollah-member-son-of-terror-group-mp-said-killed-in-pager-explosion-girl-also-killed/

 

How is that not true? The article says the girl was killed.

[hundreth]

33 minutes ago, Raze said:

How is that not true? The article says the girl was killed.

The part that isn't true is that she is the first and only report of a death.

It's just selectively using information to create a narrative. 

[Raze]

18 minutes ago, hundreth said:

The part that isn't true is that she is the first and only report of a death.

It's just selectively using information to create a narrative. 

It doesn’t say she is the only death. She is the first, her family announced it shortly before hezbollah confirmed other deaths. 

Edited September 17 by Raze

[hundreth]

https://nypost.com/2024/09/18/world-news/hezbollahs-handheld-radios-explode-in-second-wave-of-remote-detonated-attacks-on-terror-group/

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Hezbollah’s handheld radios explode in second wave of remote-detonated attacks on terror group

Round two.

[Porphyry Fedotov]

So, Israel is at it again committing mass terrorism...

 

[Nivsch]

@Raze This is more accurate and surgical than anything you will ever see or maybe even ever seen in any war.

But of course, nothing is surgical enough when you hate the attacker.

Edited September 19 by Nivsch

[PurpleTree]

that’s f’n wild with these pagers

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

@Raze This is more accurate and surgical than anything you will ever see or maybe even ever seen in any war.

But of course, nothing is surgical enough when you hate the attacker.

This is not about hating the attacker. Isreael committed a mass terrorist attack with these pagers. The only reason it isn't called that is due to self-bias.

Indiscriminate explosions in grocery stores, bazaars, buses, cars, streets, homes, and airplanes is terrorism plain and simple.

This kind of behavior is why Israel is legitmately hated around the world. To commit such an attack and then to gaslight about it as if it wasn't a terrorist attack, is what creates hate and distrust of Jews.

If Israelis want to act like this, and think this is okay, then don't expect any sympathy or support from us when you are attacked in kind. And no more taking your crocodile tears seriously.

Edited September 19 by Leo Gura

[Nivsch]

48 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

This is not about hating the attacker. Isreael committed a mass terrorist attack with these pagers. The only reason it isn't called that is due to self-bias.

Indiscriminate explosions in grocery stores, bazaars, buses, cars, streets, homes, and airplanes is terrorism plain and simple.

This kind of behavior is why Israel is legitmately hated around the world. To commit such an attack and then to gaslight about it as if it wasn't a terrorist attack, is what creates hate and distrust of Jews.

If Israelis want to act like this, and think this is okay, then don't expect any sympathy or support from us when you are attacked in kind. And no more taking your crocodile tears seriously.

But this is against Hezbollah members.

What is Israel supposed to do when 100,000s Israelis are displaced from the north due to non stop attacks from Hezbollah for 11 months? To not attack back its members?

According to this logic, Israel is never allowed to do anything in response and northern Israel resident will never come back to their homes.

Edited September 19 by Nivsch

[Karmadhi]

9 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

But this is against Hezbollah members.

Issue is that those attacked were performed all over the country, in every enviroenment, just as Leo said. 

It creates mass terror throughout the entire population, those pagers often were put in places childreen or random people could have been affected.

The psychological factor is also huge, nobody feels safe anywhere. Tomorrow your phone may be blown off too.

The point of terrorism is to terrorize the entire population of a country, and Israel did just that.

It is more of a psychological issue (also I think hundreds will die and thousands maimed).

It is way softer than what they did in Gaza but I feel like this creates mass terror on a huge scale.

 

9 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

What Israel supposes to do when 100,000s Israelis are displaced from the north due to non stop attacks from Hezbollah for 11 months? To not attack back its members?

Do a ceasefire deal, get out the hostages and leave Gaza. Hezbollah will stop firing rockets if that happens.

The whole reason Hezbollah is firing those rockets is because Israel insists on bombing Gaza every day.

If Israel did a ceasefire deal then both the hostages would be released and Hezbollah would stop firing rockets towards Israel. Israel is seriously shooting itself in the foot with this prolonged never ending war at this point. Even tons of Israelis are against it now.

At least until this happened, now I do not know. I fear they will want to retaliate somehow.

Lets hope we do not get a full war.

Also, before this pager attack Israel was bombing Hezbollah very often, they did a huge strike a few weeks ago attacking their launches sites etc. In general such attacks against key enemy strategic locations with minimum civilian losses is what Israel has done (with some exceptions) and should continue to do if Hezbollah does not stop firing rockets.

Although as I said, I think ending the Gaza war will end the Lebanon war as well automatically.

Edited September 19 by Karmadhi

[Nivsch]

14 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Indiscriminate explosions in grocery stores, bazaars, buses, cars, streets, homes

How is it indiscriminate? Those explosions are all in the jeans pockets of Hezbollah members only.

Edited September 19 by Nivsch

[Jodistrict]

Now that this technology has been released, it will be used by everyone, and nobody will be safe with a cellphone or any other device.  The world is being made more dangerous by the lust for power.  

[Leo Gura]

9 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

How is it indiscriminate? Those explosions are all in the jeans pockets of Hezbollah members only.

You can't explode a thousand devices across a country and not kill civilians.

Watch this:

 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

But this is against Hezbollah members.

An explosion in a public place or even a private home can kill many civilians.

Imagine this pager exploding on an airplane, bus, crowded street corner, or in a cafe or dentist's chair.

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What is Israel supposed to do when 100,000s Israelis are displaced from the north due to non stop attacks from Hezbollah for 11 months?

That's what the military is for.

If Bin Laden staged this pager attack against members of the Israeli government you would be crying TERRORISM!

A legitimate government is not supposed to use such underhanded and imprecise attacks. This plays right into the "scheming Jew" trope. How do you expect people to trust Jews when they place explosives in electronic devices on a mass scale and explode kids' faces? It's insanely bad PR for Jews if nothing else.

At this point I would never trust a single thing coming out of Israeli hands or mouths. Because Israel has proven that all they care about is defending Zionism at any cost by any means, be that lying, cheating, stealing, killing, raping, terrorism, torture, fraud, etc. It's all on the table and justifiable according to them.

It is shameful that Biden and Harris do not condmen this Israeli terrorism and still sell them arms.

Edited September 19 by Leo Gura